Guys..PLEASE...this is Charles Barkley we're talking about. I mean the guy doesn't even know how to pronounce players names. He also is often clueless when he speaks!! Last night he said he was concerned about when Amare and, as he called him, Shimbert (Kenny quickly corrected his killing of his name while laughing) because those guys just care about getting their points and not playing defense!!!! Shump was one of the best defenders in the league last year!!!!! So I really don't take anything he says seriously cause he is really on on TNT as comic relief!!!!!
"It Is.....What It Is!!!"
The Knicks are playing impressively right now, AND have played some tough teams, however...
Dallas didn't have Dirk OR Marion.
The 76ers did NOT have Bynum for either game.
They aren't bad teams, but I certainly wouldn't call them tough when they're playing without their Marquee players.
Might as well call Minnesota tough with Kevin Love out (zing!).
As for Barkley, I think he's overestimating the Nets. Not every team gels at the same pace. Some have a more natural fit, some take more work. And the Nets aren't exactly showing instant chemistry on both ends.
I would be surprised if they finished ahead of the Knicks OR Boston when the season is done. The Knicks are playing well at both ends right now, and I give Boston a pass for the first 20 or 30 games after how they ended up first in the Atlantic after being a ton of games back at last year's All Star break.
The Celtics are just such a ridiculously experienced team that you just can't count them out this early in the season. The problem with Boston is you never know how much of the Celtics' struggles are legitimate struggles, or Doc pulling a rope-a-dope in terms by giving his players recovery/healing time.
The Nets Defense is highly suspect right now. Lopez is putting up terrible numbers on the defensive end and unless that gets rectified that will lead to alot of unnecessary losses. I mean seriously, 6.6 rebounds per game for a center?
It isn't impossible for the Nets to finish ahead of the Knicks, but if I had to put hard earned dollars on it, I'd take the Knicks this year.
Next year, probably more of a toss up.
The Nets have beaten the Raptors, the Magic twice, the Cavs and a Celtics team without Rondo.
The Knicks have blown out the Heat, the Sixers twice, the Mavs, the Magic and the Spurs.
The Knicks have blown out 4 playoff teams, the reigning NBA champs and one of the main contenders. The Nets have beaten the C's and blew a 22 point lead to a non-playoff team missing their two best players. Their starts to their seasons aren't comparable in any way. Knicks >>> Nets.
**** Barkley, **** waveycrockett
Last edited by FraziersKnicks; 11-16-2012 at 10:18 AM.
Same for DAL, Dirk hasn't played all year yet they were still winning.
BK though caught a huge break last night, Rondo has played every game but missed last nights game. Big difference.
Knicks beat MIA & SAS at full strength.