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[basch152]

Do you not remember when Suh attempted to kick an extra point?? Pull that back to 55 yards out with wind playing a factor. Takes a lot more than just athleticism. So much of other positional players' abilities come from pure athletic, god given talent.

The kickers aren't a fan favorite position...not even close. But outside of the QB I don't think there's a single player who has more pressure on them when they're out on the field.

Yeah, he barely missed that kick, give me a week of practice and he makes every extra point, and could drill them from 30-40.

Give hanson a week of practice as a DT and the opposing RBs we play still average over 200 yards per game because there is a hole in the middle of the defense every single play.

I'll say this again(even though history tells me you have a very hard time comprehending things and I often have to repeat myself 10-15 times), kickers require athleticism, but it is only an extremely small amount of what it takes to play any other position.


Also, I'm not even arguing that punters and kickers should be in the HoF, I'm arguing the guy that says they are atheletes, at least in comparison to other NFL players.

[Lionsfanfromsac]

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[driz]

Yeah, he barely missed that kick, give me a week of practice and he makes every extra point, and could drill them from 30-40.

Give hanson a week of practice as a DT and the opposing RBs we play still average over 200 yards per game because there is a hole in the middle of the defense every single play.

I'll say this again(even though history tells me you have a very hard time comprehending things and I often have to repeat myself 10-15 times), kickers require athleticism, but it is only an extremely small amount of what it takes to play any other position.


Also, I'm not even arguing that punters and kickers should be in the HoF, I'm arguing the guy that says they are atheletes, at least in comparison to other NFL players.

Suh also has a background in Soccer. He's not just coming in willy nilly and kicking because it looks easy.

[basch152]

Suh also has a background in Soccer. He's not just coming in willy nilly and kicking because it looks easy.

Yet my point still completely stands.

[driz]

Yet my point still completely stands.

And by your "point" which completely still stands - guys like Shaun Rogers or Albert Haynesworth are dripping in athleticism.

Face facts - football is a game of positions. And although each position in the sport requires all sorts of skill, and certain physical attributes - they're all difficult. These are all the best 1% of the world population at that particular skill set. To discredit a kicker because he can't line up across from 300 LB linemen and hold his ground is ridiculous. No QB would be capable of doing that either.

The point you're trying to make about Suh being able to come in and just barely miss an extra point is moot. The guy had a long lasting Soccer career - thereby giving him experience in the skill set required to be a ****ing kicker!! Nick Fairley wouldn't come out and have the same "near miss".

[basch152]

And by your "point" which completely still stands - guys like Shaun Rogers or Albert Haynesworth are dripping in athleticism.

Bringing up extremes doesn't prove your point, it just proves that you have to use the most extreme example you can find to try to prove your point - which is still wrong.

Also, Haynesworth was an athletic freak, the **** are you talking about?

The guy weighs over 300 pounds and had a 39 inch verticle at his pro day, do you have any idea how insane that is?

Face facts - football is a game of positions. And although each position in the sport requires all sorts of skill, and certain physical attributes - they're all difficult. These are all the best 1% of the world population at that particular skill set. To discredit a kicker because he can't line up across from 300 LB linemen and hold his ground is ridiculous. No QB would be capable of doing that either.

Funny, this is almost reiterating EXACTLY what I've been saying.

I've said being a kicker requires athleticism, I said that average people can't do it, seriously, if you're going to argue with someone, READ WHAT THEY SAY so you don't sound like an idiot over and over.

Yes, being a kicker requires athleticism, but AGAIN, the athleticism required to do it is nothing compared to any other position.

Trying to argue this is simply idiotic.

The point you're trying to make about Suh being able to come in and just barely miss an extra point is moot. The guy had a long lasting Soccer career - thereby giving him experience in the skill set required to be a ****ing kicker!! Nick Fairley wouldn't come out and have the same "near miss".

And he hadn't practiced in MONTHS, maybe years. The fact that he could do so well after so long off proves my point.

Try playing as a QB after not practicing at all for months, first throw is probably going to be intercepted.