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  1. #16
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    Two guys left Kershaw completely off the NL ballot. Dude from SD and Miami I believe

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    I have no problem with the people that won as I believe both were deserving. I believe the two that finished second in both leagues also were deserving, so really even if Verlander and Kershaw won I would have been fine with it.

    The problem is the ridiculous bias some of these guys show. How could you possibly vote Kimbrel 1st? I know he had a great year but c'mon man. And anyone voting Todd Frazier for ROY over Bryce is clearly a homer. And I refuse to even get into leaving Kershaw off the ballot entirely because that is a bigger joke than the Marlins.

    The guys who vote extremely homerificly should have their vote taken from them
    It's still a game and you'd rather win it than lose it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by doyerfan59 View Post
    Two guys left Kershaw completely off the NL ballot. Dude from SD and Miami I believe
    That's ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SFrush90 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by doyerfan59 View Post
    Two guys left Kershaw completely off the NL ballot. Dude from SD and Miami I believe
    That's ridiculous.
    Exactly!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffy25 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Scully in 2012 View Post
    The voting system is severally flawed, obviously.

    Verlander should have won in the AL

    Kershaw should have won in the NL

    dickey had a great year but you can't count the W-L column to determine how great a pitcher is.
    Neither were snubbed, this was a close call between both first and second place winners in both.

    The winners are not the issue.
    Not true, Kershaw got hosed on 1st place votes.


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    Who do you guys think should do the voting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WOwolfOL View Post
    Who do you guys think should do the voting?
    I just think they should actually look for knowledgable people to make the votes.

    In a perfect world

    You would have the 32 voters for the MVP, do a fan vote that counts for 1 more ballot, and have the league front office get to vote for one ballot, have coaches do a vote for one ballot, and have the players get the one last ballot.

    All together, 36 ballot votes, 4 of them not by writers, but on total votes that could potentially affect the outcome.

    Or something like this. We clearly have people that don't deserve to have a ballot voting, last year especially it was evident.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scully in 2012 View Post
    Not true, Kershaw got hosed on 1st place votes.
    He still ended up getting second, which he deserved to either win or get second.

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