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    Quote Originally Posted by Longhornfan1234 View Post
    Yall libs just don't get it. If you work., YOU get paid, not the lazy parasites who live off the taxes stolen from your paycheck.

    If you don't work to EARN what you want, you don't get it. Government doesn't steal it form your neighbor and give it to you.

    The government is LIMITED in what it can do by the powers granted by the Constitution of the United States. It is NOT here to feed, clothe, house and medicate you when you are too lazy to get off your butt and work to earn what you need.

    People are held responsible for the consequences of their own actions and choices and reap the rewards of those same actions. These include choices to smoke, drink alcohol, be fat, a junkie, a sexual animal with no control, a baby factory or a criminal by being in this country illegally.

    I choose what charities I support and IF I support them.

    If you CHOOSE to live in disaster prone areas, YOU also choose to accept the consequences. You don't have the right to tell taxpayers across the country they have to pay to rebuild, replace or repair YOUR property after a storm and they have no obligation to do so.

    You have no special rights just because of the color of your skin, your genitalia, your sexual orientation or anything else over which no one has any control. You do not have the right to redefine words just to make your choice of sexual partner tax deductible. You do not have the right to shove any of your uniqueness in my face. I could not care less about it most of the time.

    If I work to EARN something, you do not have the "right" to have it as well just because you want it. Get off your butt and EARN it. If you try to take it from me, I have the right to fight, armed if I feel it is necessary, to keep it.
    Please please please keep bringing this. Yell it from the mountaintops. Come up with slogans and chant them. The more you convince people that this is an acceptable world view the more the conservatives will secede the middle to the liberals. I love you man. Please keep on, keeping on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GA16Angels View Post
    This is a bunch of ********. You realize that the majority of your taxes are not going to what you call "parasites." They go to programs that benefit the entire country, such as schools and roads. Paying taxes is part of being a citizen. This is the problem with free market and even mixed market societies, greed is the driving force for many citizens. Rather than wanting to contribute to society and help those who are less fortunate, you want to keep your money for yourself. Even if the government takes a tiny portion of your income, you'll cry about how America is turning socialist when, really, the idea of taking money from the fortunate and giving it to the less fortunate is not a radical idea at all. You're complaining as if this is some brand new philosophy that the Obama Administration has just instituted. This idea of light redistribution in America has been alive since the institution of the income tax, and every president has adhered to it, including your savior Reagan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C-ross12 View Post
    Romney should probably shut up. He lost because his message wasn't accepted by the majority of the people. Is there an entitlement problem in this country? Absolutely. But that problem isn't limited to just Latinos or Blacks, as Romney would have you believe. Entitlement is a problem in every race and all wealth classes. A lot of young graduates feel "entitled" to a job in their field, and refuse to work outside of it. I dont feel like I really need to go into how rich people feel entitled correct? All you have to do there is look at the bailouts and how that money was spent, along with loopholes on hiding money.

    So shut up Romney.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jomota48 View Post
    The old definition goes like this…

    If you're a democrat, you will give a hungry person a fish to eat. When he gets hungry again you will give him another fish. If he has a family, you will give him many fish.

    If you're a republican, you will give a hungry person a fishing pole to catch his own fish. He can catch several fish and make sure he has plenty of food. He can catch many fish and sell the excess for a profit. If he catches enough fish, he can open a fishing company and employ others.

    Both sides are sensitive to the hungry person. They just have a different view as to how to feed him. One simply gives, the other gives the means to become self supporting.

    Seems simple to me.
    Not quite. If you're a Republican you tell him he should get his own damn fishing pole and accuse him of being a drain on society, a parasite, and a taker. One side is "sensitive to the hungry person" by blaming him as a failure for being hungry and telling him to rely on largely non-existent private charity to feed himself. I shouldn't generalize this much, but it is difficult to respond to such broad brush statements more specifically. There are certainly strains of Republicanism that do not reflect that point of view, however those strains are just as clearly not dominant in the party right now. One need only look at their primary debates for that point to become crystal clear.

    I'll put it this way. Do the statements of the Republican standard-bearer in the OP reflect your understanding of Republicanism, or mine? When Rmoney said that 47% of Americans are victims and always will be, does that reflect a willingness to go around handing out fishing poles? To me, it reflects a tendency to heap moral approbation on half of America, tell them their problems are their own damn fault, and send them off to whatever their fate might be.
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    That's all we republicans and conservatives want to do. Just round up every illegal and deport them. Let's just enslave them all and let them starve. Make them pick lettuce and keep the prices down. Whatever them make, we;ll figure out a way to just steal their money. We hate everyone who is non white and speaks with an accent. Sterilize all minority women. We refuse to tolerate anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jomota48 View Post
    That's all we republicans and conservatives want to do. Just round up every illegal and deport them. Let's just enslave them all and let them starve. Make them pick lettuce and keep the prices down. Whatever them make, we;ll figure out a way to just steal their money. We hate everyone who is non white and speaks with an accent. Sterilize all minority women. We refuse to tolerate anything.
    Well as long as you admit it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by flips333 View Post
    And other cliches.

    How is deporting children giving them a fishing pole?

    What are these ideas? I did not hear Romney talk about any programs. In fact I heard about things like cutting grants for college? Is reducing a person's ability to get an education giving them a fishing pole? Self deportation. I heard about outlawing abortion, something that will not help with the poverty issue (a study just came out showing this check the science forum).

    If you want to play the cliche game here's one. The difference is that Liberals give fishes to feed the hungry making them strong enough to use the pole they also gave them so they can catch some for themselves.
    Well if you like cliches…


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    Give him an inch and he will take a mile (the most apropos)

    Ever wonder why places put up signs to not feed the seagulls (or in Florida the alligators)? It makes them just keep coming back for more.

    Why do you insist on insulting people by assuming so many need help to get by? Give them some credit and dignity once in a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Longhornfan1234 View Post
    Obama promised free stuff at his rallies. Minorities want their food stamps/ welfare checks, women want free contraceptives, and young people want to go to college for free. This is not a traditional America anymore.

    What! Man it's no surprise you are one of the biggest GOP supporters on here. Why the hell would any minoritie side with the likes of you. I just really hope they start turning out in the midterm elections as well so we can get rid of your kind for good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Longhornfan1234 View Post
    Yall libs just don't get it. If you work., YOU get paid, not the lazy parasites who live off the taxes stolen from your paycheck.

    If you don't work to EARN what you want, you don't get it. Government doesn't steal it form your neighbor and give it to you.

    The government is LIMITED in what it can do by the powers granted by the Constitution of the United States. It is NOT here to feed, clothe, house and medicate you when you are too lazy to get off your butt and work to earn what you need.

    People are held responsible for the consequences of their own actions and choices and reap the rewards of those same actions. These include choices to smoke, drink alcohol, be fat, a junkie, a sexual animal with no control, a baby factory or a criminal by being in this country illegally.

    I choose what charities I support and IF I support them.

    If you CHOOSE to live in disaster prone areas, YOU also choose to accept the consequences. You don't have the right to tell taxpayers across the country they have to pay to rebuild, replace or repair YOUR property after a storm and they have no obligation to do so.

    You have no special rights just because of the color of your skin, your genitalia, your sexual orientation or anything else over which no one has any control. You do not have the right to redefine words just to make your choice of sexual partner tax deductible. You do not have the right to shove any of your uniqueness in my face. I could not care less about it most of the time.

    If I work to EARN something, you do not have the "right" to have it as well just because you want it. Get off your butt and EARN it. If you try to take it from me, I have the right to fight, armed if I feel it is necessary, to keep it.
    Beautiful, but the people on here will slaughter you for it.[/QUOT


    Lmao......your approval is no surprise. After all, birds of a feather.........
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    Quote Originally Posted by jomota48 View Post
    Well if you like cliches…


    None are so blind as those who will not see

    Birds of a feather flock together

    You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink

    Ignorance is bliss

    Give him an inch and he will take a mile (the most apropos)

    Ever wonder why places put up signs to not feed the seagulls (or in Florida the alligators)? It makes them just keep coming back for more.

    Why do you insist on insulting people by assuming so many need help to get by? Give them some credit and dignity once in a while.
    How did I do that in my post. You are arguing with phantoms.

    So now it's not give them a pole. It's suggesting that people need a pole insults them. And down the rabbit hole we go. The further we go the more progressives take the center.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Longhornfan1234 View Post
    Yall libs just don't get it. If you work., YOU get paid, not the lazy parasites who live off the taxes stolen from your paycheck.

    If you don't work to EARN what you want, you don't get it. Government doesn't steal it form your neighbor and give it to you.
    Taxes are not stolen, to make this claim you would have to argue that all taxes are illegitimate, not just income tax but also sales tax and every single form of taxes. Because no one is willing to make such a ridiculous and wrong claim, we can discount it.

    The government is LIMITED in what it can do by the powers granted by the Constitution of the United States. It is NOT here to feed, clothe, house and medicate you when you are too lazy to get off your butt and work to earn what you need.
    This is true. The government is limited but not nearly as much so as this post claims. As Cab said, the 10th Amendment is not as clear cut to eliminate government involvement as he thinks. In fact, it is actually not very clear when you talk to Constitutional experts.

    People are held responsible for the consequences of their own actions and choices and reap the rewards of those same actions. These include choices to smoke, drink alcohol, be fat, a junkie, a sexual animal with no control, a baby factory or a criminal by being in this country illegally.

    I choose what charities I support and IF I support them.
    This point is completely irrelevant to anything other than pointing out meaningless facts. Not relevant to minorities, women, or any group unless it is your goal to tie those groups to being dependent based on their race or gender.

    If you CHOOSE to live in disaster prone areas, YOU also choose to accept the consequences. You don't have the right to tell taxpayers across the country they have to pay to rebuild, replace or repair YOUR property after a storm and they have no obligation to do so.
    The nation has decided that this is not the course that we wish to pursue. I'm surprised to hear this from someone whom I suspect supports charter schools, which receive quite a large bit of funding from the federal government.

    You have no special rights just because of the color of your skin, your genitalia, your sexual orientation or anything else over which no one has any control. You do not have the right to redefine words just to make your choice of sexual partner tax deductible. You do not have the right to shove any of your uniqueness in my face. I could not care less about it most of the time.
    Again, just a post to point out how some conservatives really feel about minorities, women, or gay people. They are apparently shoving their gayness down his throat. Gay people apparently don't have the fact that their love is less special in the eyes of the government shoved down their throat every single day. This is a person who advocates for discrimination all while saying he doesn't care what people do most of the time. It is hypocrisy of the highest order.

    If I work to EARN something, you do not have the "right" to have it as well just because you want it. Get off your butt and EARN it. If you try to take it from me, I have the right to fight, armed if I feel it is necessary, to keep it.
    Again accusing minorities of doing nothing but plotting to take his (white people's stuff).

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    For Homestar, there is absolutely nothing about this poster's ideas that warrant any recognition or praise.

    This is just the GOP status quo. Weeks ago Romney flat out called half the country lazy good for nothing parasities. That just wanted a hand out. An when several people brought it up.

    All these conservatives on here tried to dimiss it as "oh it's no big deal, he was just talking about the election". Im sure you remember who they were. But in reality he meant every word just how we took it. That's the GOP mind set. An these guys are or part of that base. This is the same junk Romney Believed and it's why he said what he said (47%). An its why he and the rest of his GOP cronies should never be in the white house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jomota48 View Post
    The old definition goes like this…

    If you're a democrat, you will give a hungry person a fish to eat. When he gets hungry again you will give him another fish. If he has a family, you will give him many fish.

    If you're a republican, you will give a hungry person a fishing pole to catch his own fish. He can catch several fish and make sure he has plenty of food. He can catch many fish and sell the excess for a profit. If he catches enough fish, he can open a fishing company and employ others.

    Both sides are sensitive to the hungry person. They just have a different view as to how to feed him. One simply gives, the other gives the means to become self supporting.

    Seems simple to me.
    What? Hell no. That's the biggest load if bull I've heard in a good while. Lol

    I's more like your a Dem you give them fish, while you teach them how to fish, so they can get on there feet and start feeding them self's.

    If your a republican, you don't give them ****. An on top of that, you fence of the lake and put guard dogs. Just to make sure they can't get anywhere near your fish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Labgrownmangoat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jomota48 View Post
    The old definition goes like this…

    If you're a democrat, you will give a hungry person a fish to eat. When he gets hungry again you will give him another fish. If he has a family, you will give him many fish.

    If you're a republican, you will give a hungry person a fishing pole to catch his own fish. He can catch several fish and make sure he has plenty of food. He can catch many fish and sell the excess for a profit. If he catches enough fish, he can open a fishing company and employ others.

    Both sides are sensitive to the hungry person. They just have a different view as to how to feed him. One simply gives, the other gives the means to become self supporting.

    Seems simple to me.
    Not quite. If you're a Republican you tell him he should get his own damn fishing pole and accuse him of being a drain on society, a parasite, and a taker. One side is "sensitive to the hungry person" by blaming him as a failure for being hungry and telling him to rely on largely non-existent private charity to feed himself. I shouldn't generalize this much, but it is difficult to respond to such broad brush statements more specifically. There are certainly strains of Republicanism that do not reflect that point of view, however those strains are just as clearly not dominant in the party right now. One need only look at their primary debates for that point to become crystal clear.

    I'll put it this way. Do the statements of the Republican standard-bearer in the OP reflect your understanding of Republicanism, or mine? When Rmoney said that 47% of Americans are victims and always will be, does that reflect a willingness to go around handing out fishing poles? To me, it reflects a tendency to heap moral approbation on half of America, tell them their problems are their own damn fault, and send them off to whatever their fate might be.

    Yes, yes, yes.....an pretty much all these conservaties on here (even the ones who like to pretend they are not so far right) tried to defend his comments or say it was no big deal. That just shows you the mind set of the entire party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jomota48 View Post
    That's all we republicans and conservatives want to do. Just round up every illegal and deport them. Let's just enslave them all and let them starve. Make them pick lettuce and keep the prices down. Whatever them make, we;ll figure out a way to just steal their money. We hate everyone who is non white and speaks with an accent. Sterilize all minority women. We refuse to tolerate anything.
    Didn't you just re-elect sheriff joe arpaio? Isnt that what he does? Sound like your party likes that kind of thing to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ewing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GA16Angels View Post
    This is a bunch of ********. You realize that the majority of your taxes are not going to what you call "parasites." They go to programs that benefit the entire country, such as schools and roads. Paying taxes is part of being a citizen. This is the problem with free market and even mixed market societies, greed is the driving force for many citizens. Rather than wanting to contribute to society and help those who are less fortunate, you want to keep your money for yourself. Even if the government takes a tiny portion of your income, you'll cry about how America is turning socialist when, really, the idea of taking money from the fortunate and giving it to the less fortunate is not a radical idea at all. You're complaining as if this is some brand new philosophy that the Obama Administration has just instituted. This idea of light redistribution in America has been alive since the institution of the income tax, and every president has adhered to it, including your savior Reagan.

    Tiny portion? What do you do for a living?
    It was an exaggeration to prove a point which is: if the government takes one dollar out of a hardcore conservatives paycheck they will quickly scream "SOCIALISM!!"

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