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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by natepro View Post
    That'll definitely change the outcome!
    Thats what I told him. I told him if he wants to write anyone then he should write the BBWAA. Didnt know what that was

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    Quote Originally Posted by utl768 View Post
    wins matter right or wrong
    No they dont, we have learned they no longer matter

    The voters know better now

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    Quote Originally Posted by utl768 View Post
    wins matter right or wrong
    For evaluating a pitchers performance?

    Wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by utl768 View Post
    wins matter right or wrong
    Lololololololololololololololololol

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    Yeah plenty of pitchers with mediocre ERA's win 15+ games in a season.

    It's not really indicative of how well or poorly a pitcher pitched.
    Still A Better Umpire Than Angel Hernandez!!!

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    they shouldnt matter but for writers they do for the most part

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    Quote Originally Posted by utl768 View Post
    they shouldnt matter but for writers they do for the most part
    Lololololololol

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    I definitely get the sense that Price won

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    Quote Originally Posted by utl768 View Post
    they shouldnt matter but for writers they do for the most part
    Felix Hernandez won in 2010 with a 13-12 record. CC won 21 games and Price went 19-7

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    the hell is taking so long?

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    Quote Originally Posted by utl768 View Post
    they shouldnt matter but for writers they do for the most part
    no they don't, the writers know better, as is evident in their voting

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    Quote Originally Posted by utl768 View Post
    they shouldnt matter but for writers they do for the most part
    I think wins only matter in conjunction if the pitcher pitches well like Dickey or Gio did.

    Dickey won 20 games on a team that only won 74 but the wins only matter because he is neck and neck with Kershaw and Gio in many other categories.
    Last edited by metswon69; 11-14-2012 at 06:18 PM.
    Still A Better Umpire Than Angel Hernandez!!!

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    A half hour my ***.
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    I got destroyed when I said Kershaw had no shot in early September because of his win total... I did not say it was right but said you people were giving far to much credit to the voters.... Using felix as an example of winning to help your arguments that the voters are changed in terms of their thinking was not a good example....Felix blew everyone out of the water in most stats but kershaw did nit and fell a ton of wins short of Dickey. Its not right and Kershaw should win it but I still say he has no shot...I hope I am wrong

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    wtf?! Last year, everything was announced right on time, or within a few minutes.

    What is going on?

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