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    Quote Originally Posted by Mell413 View Post
    How was he wayyyyyyy better oh great one?
    How was he not? Do you honestly believe Gio was that close to kershaw? He had a great year but Kershaw was hands down better than he was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by metswon69 View Post
    I think what's understated here is the fact that Dickey is dominating with an 80mph knuckleball that he has incredible control over.

    How many knuckleball pitchers have had 4 to 1 K/BB ratio with a over a whole season?
    I'd give him the edge over Kershaw just based on him having fewer BBs. That's bat **** insane for a knuckleballer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by More-Than-Most View Post
    How was he not? Do you honestly believe Gio was that close to kershaw? He had a great year but Kershaw was hands down better than he was.
    http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.asp...ter=&players=0

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    He was obviously better, but not waaaaaay, "far superior than him," better.

    Gio was very good, Kershaw was great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MetsFanatic19 View Post
    He was obviously better, but not waaaaaay, "far superior than him," better.

    Gio was very good, Kershaw was great.
    That's what I was getting at, but I'm not as smart as MTM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mell413 View Post
    That's what I was getting at, but I'm not as smart as MTM
    Again I stated GIO was great but kershaw was not just 3 votes better...The gap should have been wider but because of wins it wasn't.

    Had GIO won over either dickey or Kershaw it would have been a joke....Kershaw was better period. Maybe I over exaggerated some but he was still much more then 3 votes better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by More-Than-Most View Post
    Again I stated GIO was great but kershaw was not just 3 votes better...The gap should have been wider but because of wins it wasn't.

    Had GIO won over either dickey or Kershaw it would have been a joke....Kershaw was better period. Maybe I over exaggerated some but he was still much more then 3 votes better.
    This, definitly.

    Maybe some voters compared Kershaw's Triple Crown 2011 to his 2012 and thought that he was much deserving last year and not as much in 2012. Also, with all of the talk about Stras during the season, Gio was able to keep his cool and win 20+ games.

    Just some thoughts of mine of what I think they think....I think.

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    Dickey had that super dominating stretch, which I think ultimately helped him as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by More-Than-Most View Post
    Again I stated GIO was great but kershaw was not just 3 votes better...The gap should have been wider but because of wins it wasn't.

    Had GIO won over either dickey or Kershaw it would have been a joke....Kershaw was better period. Maybe I over exaggerated some but he was still much more then 3 votes better.
    dickey and kershaw were the only choice and i thought it would be closer (i thought gio could steal based on a vote split)

    that being said does it matter if it was 1 vote difference or 100 votes? 2nd place is 2nd place and 3rd is 3rd

    to quote the fast and the furious "it doesnt matter if you by an inch or win by a mile"

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    Quote Originally Posted by More-Than-Most View Post
    Again I stated GIO was great but kershaw was not just 3 votes better...The gap should have been wider but because of wins it wasn't.

    Had GIO won over either dickey or Kershaw it would have been a joke....Kershaw was better period. Maybe I over exaggerated some but he was still much more then 3 votes better.
    You think? I won't disagree with Kershaw being better due to innings pitched, but to act like he was far and away better is non sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffy25 View Post
    Cueto isn't a finalist
    I still don't understand how he's not even a finalist. I don't get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jlohm1 View Post
    I still don't understand how he's not even a finalist. I don't get it.
    What is he top 3 in besides ERA (which he has a .01 lead over Cain)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffy25 View Post
    What is he top 3 in besides ERA (which he has a .01 lead over Cain)
    also, look at the stadium difference that Cain and Cueto are both pitching in.

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    David Price wins AL Cy Young, R.A. Dickey wins NL Cy Young Award

    Verlander and Kershaw


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    Quote Originally Posted by Scully in 2012 View Post
    Verlander and Kershaw

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