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  1. #196
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    im glad leiter didnt include himself in the pitching rich statement

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    Any people said wins were a useless stat

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    About time with all the Met's rich pitching history they get another Cy Young award winner.

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    If the voters did change no way Dickey would have reciever 27-32....He crushed kershaw while kershaw was the better pitcher. WINS

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    you are pushing for action utl

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    Quote Originally Posted by keymax View Post
    That's BS. This was close but Kershaw was the boring previous winner while Dickey was the great story.

    Congrats to Dickey, well deserved.
    no it wasnt close...Dickey crushed them.

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    Good thing dickey had a story to help him win

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    Whelp, looks like voters haven't changed very much after all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bosox3431 View Post
    Good thing dickey had a story to help him win
    the wins were enough sadly

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    Quote Originally Posted by bosox3431 View Post
    Good thing dickey had a story to help him win
    Let's not act like Dickey was some crazy long shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by More-Than-Most View Post
    no it wasnt close...Dickey crushed them.
    I meant their perofrmances were close. I would have voted for Dickey as well.

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    Can't say Kershaw was robbed when Verlander didn't win either. Wins always matter when the numbers are close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by More-Than-Most View Post
    Lol dickey crushed them...TOLD EVERYONE...WINS DO MATTER to them so suck it
    He also lead the NL in CGs, SHO, Ks and IP. His ERA and WHIP were right there with Kershaw's, so let's not act like he only had bulky wins and nothing else.
    Props to MetsLegacy

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    pretty much a given Dickey would win but I thought it would be close. 2 voters left Kershaw completely off the ballot lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farsight View Post
    Any people said wins were a useless stat
    This is a ridiculous exaggeration


    Dickey and Kershaw were basically identical in sabr stats, maybe a tiny edge to
    Kershaw.

    Dickey winning doesn't mean wins are important, if they were, Gio would have done better.

    These two were close, more voters sided with Dickey. It doesn't mean because of one particular stat that that is the reason he won. These two were basically identical in value this season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodgerbluemmm24 View Post
    Whelp, looks like voters haven't changed very much after all.
    Nope and they wont. I got crushed preaching this in Mid September with people calling me morons because the King won with not many wins. The King won because he destroyed everyone in every other flashy stat area...Kershaw did not and thus wins were the only factor and its moronic on the voters part. I do not mind dickey winning but he crushed everyone else with votes and that is just

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