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    It may be time for Bud Selig to save baseball and its fans in Miami from thiPetition

    Petition Bud Selig to stepp in and veto the trade for "MLB reasons".


    It may be time for Bud Selig to save baseball and its fans in Miami from this madman.petition ( head line)



    Last December before the NBA resumed its abbreviated season, the Los Angeles Lakers almost got Chris Paul in a deal before commissioner David Stern stepped in and vetoed the trade for "basketball reasons".
    Last edited by marlinschamps; 11-14-2012 at 11:15 AM.

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    lol

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    trade should not be vetoed, but Loria should be forced to sell the Marlins...

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    According to 560 WQAM:

    If Loria sells (majority ownership ie +50%) within the next 10 years he has to give a portion of those profits back to the county.

    He's not selling anytime soon.


    Best bet would be that the investigation into the Non-Vote for the taxpayers to pay for the new stadium leads to a fall out for Loria. They're still investigating that.

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    i know that part daaaarryyyl. im just saying veto the trade.

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    Adry Torres: Miami Marlins, Toronto Blue Jays Trade Taints Major League Baseball


    MIAMI, FL - APRIL 04: A general view of Marlin's Park during Opening Day between the Miami Marlins and the St. Louis Cardinals at Marlins Park on April 4, 2012 in Miami, Florida. (Photo by Mike Ehrmann/Getty Images) (2012 Getty Images)
    Less than a year after Miami went on the biggest off-season spending spree in Major League Baseball, Marlins owner Jeffrey Loria completed the team's fire sale, agreeing to send Jose Reyes, Mark Buehrle and Josh Johnson to Toronto. The deal was first reported by Fox Sports on Tuesday.
    While in the past the Marlins have been known to follow a championship season with a fire sale, this latest news caught the baseball world off guard.
    Who would have expected that Reyes and Burhrle, two prized off-season acquisitions along with Johnson, would have quickly followed recently fired manager Ozzie Guillen out of South Beach in what turned out to be a disappointing season that was filled with the hope of winning a championship.
    However, the Marlins never lived up to the expectations that accompanied the team’s new $515 million stadium located in Miami’s Little Havana.
    The Marlins were followed by Showtime for The Franchise, a television show on the cable network that gave fans an inside look into the lives of the players of a major league club.
    Today the Marlins are better suited for an installment of Back to The Future as the fan base has once again been misled by the art dealing owner.
    The team struggled out the gate with a 8-14 record in April but had a hot streak in May, winning their first seven games of the month, going 21-8 and for a moment striking up some hope. Entering play on June 5th, the Marlins were tied atop the NL East with the Washington Nationals, whom went on to win the division. Miami then lost six straight and 11 of the next 14 games, thus never recuperating.
    It may be time for Bud Selig to save baseball and its fans in Miami...
    - Adry Torres
    Miami finished 69-93, good enough for last place in the NL East and even great enough for Loria to fool fans with another fire sale.
    Catcher John Buck also was shipped north of the border for a package that included shortstop Yunel Escobar, starting pitcher Henderson Alvarez, shortstop Adeiny Hechavarria, catcher Jeff Mathis, and pitching prospect Justin Nicolas along with two other minor leaguerers.
    The front lawn yard sale might have been easily accepted by Marlins fans after the team won the World Series in 1997 under former owner Wayne Huizenga and then in 2003, a year after Loria purchased the club.
    The first warning signs came last year when right before the trade deadline the Marlins decided to pull the plug on Hanley Ramirez, who reportedly was never happy about switching over to third base after the team did not consult with him before signing Reyes, and traded him to the Los Angeles Dodgers. If the smoke of the fire sale was not clear then, then it was when the Marlins dealt starting pitcher Anibal Sanchez and second baseman Omar Infante to the Detroit Tigers.
    Loria shed over $30 million in salary in those two trades.
    Before the 2012 World Series had even concluded, the Marlins pulled the plug on Heath Bell, trading him to Arizona. Bell flopped as the closer and sparred verbally with Guillen throughout the season. Loria will pay only $8 million of the $21 million Bell is owed.
    The latest binge Tuesday evening had some fans scratching their heads as they headed home from work, ready to get that hot stove going in their kitchens.
    Instead they're now left with a sour taste of what could have been if the team had been kept intact for first-year manager Mike Redmond.
    Here it’s the fans and the city of Miami that are the real losers.
    Along with many citizens of Miami-Dade County, who could care less about the Marlins, the city ended up getting played by Loria. With the backing of local government politicians, the city still owes $2.4 billion for the estimated final cost of Marlins Park that now stands as a constant reminder of the now disgraced franchise.
    Can fans trust Loria anymore? It was he who stripped Montreal of its baseball franchise and sold the Expos to the commissioner's office for $120 million in 2002 and then turned around to purchase the Marlins from John Henry, who would then buy the Boston Red Sox.
    He paid $158 million in 2002 for the Marlins, who according to Forbes were worth $450 million in the early stages of the season that just ended.
    Loria balled so hard and in an instant gave out $191 million during his spending spree last winter.
    Loria wined and dined Reyes in New York once the free agency window opened up and gave him a check for $106 million but was smart enough not to give Reyes a no-trade clause. Ditto with Burhrle, who had signed a four-year, $58 million deal. With Guillen running the show in Miami, it was easy to convince Buehrle to join his former skipper for a run at another title after winning one together with the Chicago White Sox.
    He even flirted with Albert Pujols.
    Fans could have braved this trade after the 1997 and 2003 seasons, when the sole decision to trade away talent was based on the stadium issue. That excuse in unacceptable now.
    Last December before the NBA resumed its abbreviated season, the Los Angeles Lakers almost got Chris Paul in a deal before commissioner David Stern stepped in and vetoed the trade for "basketball reasons".
    It may be time for Bud Selig to save baseball and its fans in Miami from this madman.

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    Adry Torres: Miami Marlins, Toronto Blue Jays Trade (Taints Major League Baseball)


    MIAMI, FL - APRIL 04: A general view of Marlin's Park during Opening Day between the Miami Marlins and the St. Louis Cardinals at Marlins Park on April 4, 2012 in Miami, Florida. (Photo by Mike Ehrmann/Getty Images) (2012 Getty Images)
    Less than a year after Miami went on the biggest off-season spending spree in Major League Baseball, Marlins owner Jeffrey Loria completed the team's fire sale, agreeing to send Jose Reyes, Mark Buehrle and Josh Johnson to Toronto. The deal was first reported by Fox Sports on Tuesday.
    While in the past the Marlins have been known to follow a championship season with a fire sale, this latest news caught the baseball world off guard.
    Who would have expected that Reyes and Burhrle, two prized off-season acquisitions along with Johnson, would have quickly followed recently fired manager Ozzie Guillen out of South Beach in what turned out to be a disappointing season that was filled with the hope of winning a championship.
    However, the Marlins never lived up to the expectations that accompanied the teamís new $515 million stadium located in Miamiís Little Havana.
    The Marlins were followed by Showtime for The Franchise, a television show on the cable network that gave fans an inside look into the lives of the players of a major league club.
    Today the Marlins are better suited for an installment of Back to The Future as the fan base has once again been misled by the art dealing owner.
    The team struggled out the gate with a 8-14 record in April but had a hot streak in May, winning their first seven games of the month, going 21-8 and for a moment striking up some hope. Entering play on June 5th, the Marlins were tied atop the NL East with the Washington Nationals, whom went on to win the division. Miami then lost six straight and 11 of the next 14 games, thus never recuperating.
    It may be time for Bud Selig to save baseball and its fans in Miami...
    - Adry Torres
    Miami finished 69-93, good enough for last place in the NL East and even great enough for Loria to fool fans with another fire sale.
    Catcher John Buck also was shipped north of the border for a package that included shortstop Yunel Escobar, starting pitcher Henderson Alvarez, shortstop Adeiny Hechavarria, catcher Jeff Mathis, and pitching prospect Justin Nicolas along with two other minor leaguerers.
    The front lawn yard sale might have been easily accepted by Marlins fans after the team won the World Series in 1997 under former owner Wayne Huizenga and then in 2003, a year after Loria purchased the club.
    The first warning signs came last year when right before the trade deadline the Marlins decided to pull the plug on Hanley Ramirez, who reportedly was never happy about switching over to third base after the team did not consult with him before signing Reyes, and traded him to the Los Angeles Dodgers. If the smoke of the fire sale was not clear then, then it was when the Marlins dealt starting pitcher Anibal Sanchez and second baseman Omar Infante to the Detroit Tigers.
    Loria shed over $30 million in salary in those two trades.
    Before the 2012 World Series had even concluded, the Marlins pulled the plug on Heath Bell, trading him to Arizona. Bell flopped as the closer and sparred verbally with Guillen throughout the season. Loria will pay only $8 million of the $21 million Bell is owed.
    The latest binge Tuesday evening had some fans scratching their heads as they headed home from work, ready to get that hot stove going in their kitchens.
    Instead they're now left with a sour taste of what could have been if the team had been kept intact for first-year manager Mike Redmond.
    Here itís the fans and the city of Miami that are the real losers.
    Along with many citizens of Miami-Dade County, who could care less about the Marlins, the city ended up getting played by Loria. With the backing of local government politicians, the city still owes $2.4 billion for the estimated final cost of Marlins Park that now stands as a constant reminder of the now disgraced franchise.
    Can fans trust Loria anymore? It was he who stripped Montreal of its baseball franchise and sold the Expos to the commissioner's office for $120 million in 2002 and then turned around to purchase the Marlins from John Henry, who would then buy the Boston Red Sox.
    He paid $158 million in 2002 for the Marlins, who according to Forbes were worth $450 million in the early stages of the season that just ended.
    Loria balled so hard and in an instant gave out $191 million during his spending spree last winter.
    Loria wined and dined Reyes in New York once the free agency window opened up and gave him a check for $106 million but was smart enough not to give Reyes a no-trade clause. Ditto with Burhrle, who had signed a four-year, $58 million deal. With Guillen running the show in Miami, it was easy to convince Buehrle to join his former skipper for a run at another title after winning one together with the Chicago White Sox.
    He even flirted with Albert Pujols.
    Fans could have braved this trade after the 1997 and 2003 seasons, when the sole decision to trade away talent was based on the stadium issue. That excuse in unacceptable now.
    Last December before the NBA resumed its abbreviated season, the Los Angeles Lakers almost got Chris Paul in a deal before commissioner David Stern stepped in and vetoed the trade for "basketball reasons".
    It may be time for Bud Selig to save baseball and its fans in Miami from this madman.

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    This Deal Taints Major League Baseball

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    Quote Originally Posted by marlinschamps View Post
    This Deal Taints Major League Baseball
    No, this trade taints the Marlins as long as JL is there. Tough to attract any FA's.

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    wow

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    I am a Blue Jays fan, and I hope this deal goes through....Loria/Samson and Rogers/Beeston/Anthopolos followed the rules, even though I am well aware that we are getting a huge step towards finally being able to compete in a powerful AL East division, a deal is a deal.

    To be neutral...If Bud Selig decides to veto this deal...he better have the approval of a super majority of owners behind him to OUST JEFFREY LORIA as an owner of an MLB Franchise FOR LIFE.

    If this deal gets vetoed by Bud Selig and Loria gets ousted, then I will understand, but if he does veto the deal and Loria is STILL the owner of the Miami Marlins, I wont be happy, and neither will anyone in Miami or Toronto.

    This trade being announced BEFORE its official should NOT have happened, no matter what happens, youre fans are damaged permanently knowing that youre going through another fire sale. Usually our GM is highly secretive about trades, however Twitter happens to change everything in players, who tweet they are being traded, its a lot harder to keep a secret from people when players tweet they are being traded.

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    veto the deal and Loria is STILL the owner of the Miami Marlins, I wont be happy, and neither will anyone in Miami or Toronto.

    your worng marlins fans will be happy. all we want is four Bud Selig to tell JEFFREY LORIA to get with the program an stop clowning around with the team.

    the trade can still be had , if jose reyes not in deal an we give up ricky nolasco cause his contrat is up after 2013

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    Quote Originally Posted by marlinschamps View Post
    veto the deal and Loria is STILL the owner of the Miami Marlins, I wont be happy, and neither will anyone in Miami or Toronto.

    your worng marlins fans will be happy. all we want is four Bud Selig to tell JEFFREY LORIA to get with the program an stop clowning around with the team.

    the trade can still be had , if jose reyes not in deal an we give up ricky nolasco cause his contrat is up after 2013
    C'MON MAN

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    It's funny that the Chris Paul trade was brought up. A long time ago Vince Carter got traded for 2 scrubs, a draft pick and a player who openly said he would refuse to play in Toronto (Alonzo Mourning). That trade didn't get vetoed.

    The CP3 trade shouldn't have been vetoed and neither should this one. An agreement was reached. End of story.

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