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    Howard over fat albert

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    Quote Originally Posted by koldjerky View Post
    Utley not winning any GG at 2B.
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    Someone make an argument against this please

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    Quote Originally Posted by utl768 View Post
    if dickey somehow loses the cy young tommorow thatd be a pretty big snub

    def top 2-3
    Seriously? Do you not realize how good Kershaw is/was? I dont mind either winning it to be honest but to me it would go to kershaw.... Whomever of the 2 win it would not be considering a huge snub.

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    Jimmy Rollins wasn't even the best player on the Phillies in 2007.
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    Quote Originally Posted by metswon69 View Post
    Braun Vs Kemp was 2011 not 2006..
    i know...
    Quote Originally Posted by spliff(TONE) View Post
    Kemp's wOBA: .413
    Braun's wOBA: .426

    Kemp's Fld: -4.6
    Braun's Fld: -3.8


    Kemp's K%: 23.1%
    Braun's K%: 14.8%


    I'd say it was a bit of a coin flip myself. Their numbers where actually fairly similar, with both having slight leads in multiple categories.
    where are you getting the fielding percentage from?

    Matt Kemp had a higher on base percentage, K's have become OK now, no one cares if someone strikes out 200 times in a season.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffy25 View Post
    How on earth did you get Braun vs Kemp for the 06 NL MVP?

    Braun was in Double A, and Kemp only played 52 games in the big leagues.

    I didn't say last years MVP, last year it was close, tiny edge to Kemp, but not a snub
    I was talking about 2011, i don't know why people thought i was talking about 06? I was saying that braun winning over kemp in 11 was a bigger snub than 06.

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    Looking at RBI and HR to determine the best player in baseball...

    BRILLIANT!

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    Looking at RBI and HR to determine the best player in baseball...

    BRILLIANT!

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    2003 Bonds vs. 2003 Pujols vs. last years best HITTER (Miggy)

    45 HR, 90 RBI, 148 BB, .529 OBP, .749 SLG, 1.278 OPS, 8.9 WAR
    43 HR, 124 RBI, 79 BB, .439 OBP, .667 SLG, 1.106 OPS, 8.3 WAR
    44 HR, 139 RBI, 66 BB, .393 OBP, .606 SLG, .999 OPS, 6.9 WAR

    Pujols had more RBI's...thats pretty much it

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    Quote Originally Posted by #1 Romo fan View Post
    I have compiled a list of award snubs of the past 10 years. Since it's award week, I thought that it would be nice to see you guys opinions on this.

    10. 2009 NL CY Young, Tim Lincecum over Adam Wainwright.

    Adam Wainwright, 19-8 2.63 212
    Tim Lincecum, 15-7 2.48 261
    Are you just looking at wins?
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    In terms of the Rollins winning MVP over Holliday, I can see why that was considered a snub. Although, Rollins winning had more to do with his hitting as he was the best fielding SS in baseball. He also set some record that season involving the number of triples/doubles/SBs/etc (honestly too lazy to look it up). Plus it was the first year the Phils made the playoffs since the early 90's so he was seen as the catalyst to an epic August/September run. Personally, I think Holliday was just as deserving, but a good case can be made for Rollins. that year.

    Another thing to keep in mind, it should have gone to Utley that season who was absolutely tearing it up until Lannan broke his hand with a pitch. Had he not missed that month with an injury late in the season, it would have been a completely deserving Utley that won it.

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    http://www.baseball-reference.com/aw...05.shtml#NLmvp

    Andruw Jones placing higher than D-Lee in 05 still makes me laugh.

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    1988 NL MVP

    Kirk Gibson beating out Darryl Strawberry was pretty bad.

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    I wasn't sure where to drop this, but since Barry Bonds is talked about in here I guess this is good.
    has anyone seen Bonds head lately? holy ****.
    unless this is a bad picture.
    his head shrunk.
    not sure if because he is getting older, or maybe more so because he no longer taking PED.
    I just thought it was interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by #1 Romo fan View Post
    I have compiled a list of award snubs of the past 10 years. Since it's award week, I thought that it would be nice to see you guys opinions on this.

    10. 2009 NL CY Young, Tim Lincecum over Adam Wainwright.

    Adam Wainwright, 19-8 2.63 212
    Tim Lincecum, 15-7 2.48 261

    9. 2003 AL Rookie of the Year, Angel Berroa over Hideki Matsui

    Hideki Matsui .287 16 106
    Angel Berroa .287 17 73

    8. 2011 AL MVP, Justin Verlander over Jacoby Ellsbury

    Jacoby Ellsbury .321 32 105 39 Steals
    Justin Verlander 24-5 2.40 250

    7. 2002 AL MVP, Miguel Tejada over Alex Rodriguez

    Alex Rodriguez .300 57 142
    Miguel Tejada .308 34 131

    6. 2006 AL MVP, Justin Morneau over Derek Jeter

    Derek Jeter .343 14 97
    Justin Morneau .321 34 130

    5. 2002 AL Cy Young, Barry Zito over Pedro Martinez

    Pedro Martinez 20-4 2.26 239
    Barry Zito 23-5 2.75 182

    4. 2004 NL Cy Young, Roger Clemens over Randy Johnson

    Randy Johnson 16-14 2.60 290
    Roger Clemens 18-4 2.98 218

    3. 2011 NL MVP, Ryan Braun over Matt Kemp

    Matt Kemp .324 39 126
    Ryan Braun .332 33 111

    2. 2003 NL MVP, Barry Bonds over Albert Pujols

    Albert Pujols .359 43 124
    Barry Bonds .340 45 90

    1. 2007 NL MVP, Jimmy Rollins over Matt Holliday

    Matt Holliday .340 36 137
    Jimmy Rollins .296 30 94

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    How were you able to overlook Bartolo Colon over Johan Santana for the 2005 AL Cy Young that season? That was the snub of the decade. Santana was far more dominant than Colon that season. But it was quite obvious that the voters chose Colon because of the W-L record.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dodgerdave View Post
    How were you able to overlook Bartolo Colon over Johan Santana for the 2005 AL Cy Young that season? That was the snub of the decade. Santana was far more dominant than Colon that season. But it was quite obvious that the voters chose Colon because of the W-L record.
    Partially that and also partially because Santana, although more dominant, had a "not-Santana like" year. His advanced stats were lower than they had been in any other year. It sort of sparked talks of a decline, and he was snubbed because the voters probably felt that he didn't warrant it because it wasn't on par with what they expect out of Santana.

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