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    Quote Originally Posted by Melo15 View Post
    -Jason La Canfora

    If this happens I'll be so ****ing pumped ray:
    CBS Sports' Jason La Canfora reports it "sounds like" in-limbo Cardinals defensive coordinator Ray Horton will end up as the Browns' defensive boss.
    Horton reportedly had a heated exchange with new Cardinals GM Steve Keim after he was skipped over for the team's head-coaching job and has requested a release from his contract that runs through 2013. He is fully expected to be granted that release. Browns new head coach Rob Chudzinski seems intent on making the switch to a 3-4 defense, and that's what Horton knows. Horton won't be on the open market for long.
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    Do we go after Horton or Tucker? And does Horton run a hybrid?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClevelandFan11 View Post
    Do we go after Horton or Tucker? And does Horton run a hybrid?
    Horton does not run a hybrid, but he is too good to pass up. He could bring some of his defensive players with him because Zona is switching to a 4-3.
    Here comes the NEW BROWNS!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kosar4president View Post
    Horton does not run a hybrid, but he is too good to pass up. He could bring some of his defensive players with him because Zona is switching to a 4-3.
    Has it been reported that Bowles who is replacing Horton apperantly is going to run a 4-3? Everything I have read does not say that as Bowles has experience from Miami and Philly in both the 3-4 and the 4-3 and that Zona will probably have a base 3-4 with hybrid packages because that has been what the defense has been built for and remember they still have Kleim in the building running things who helped build that D'. The only UFA for Zona's Defense too this year are Paris Lenon, Nick Eason, Vonnie Holiday, James Sanders, Rashad Johnson, Greg Toler and Michael Adams. Greg Toler and Rashad Johnson might be the only two worth bringing in to add secondary depth out of that list as Lenon is the only other name but he is 35 years old so that would be a no.

    Moving on to Horton though, if somehow they can swindle him from Zona then the Browns IMPO will have netted the two highest regarded coordinators this offseason to go with Chud. That would be crazy. They better go out and spend some money on some speed linebackers and a shutdown corner though because with Horton hear he will want to create his common chaos on the defensive end with a lot of blitzing packages where he leaves his Corners on islands a lot of times.

    1) Ray Horton's organized chaos confounds opponents. When Horton was appointed the Cardinals ' defensive coordinator following a successful seven-year stint as the Pittsburgh Steelers ' secondary coach, most expected Arizona would run a hybrid 3-4 with unique blitz pressure concepts. Horton certainly hasn't disappointed, installing a high-pressure scheme that routinely features five- and six-man blitzes from a variety of fronts. The pressures are complemented by a bunch of pre-snap movement that is designed to create confusion for blockers at the point of attack. When coordinated with tight coverage in the back end, the heavy blitzing overwhelms ground attacks and forces quarterbacks to throw under duress.


    2) The Cardinals are strong down the middle. The best defenses in the NFL are strongest down the middle of the field. In theory, this means that the best personnel on elite units are positioned at defensive tackle, linebacker and safety. Although this isn't exactly the case with the Cardinals , their blue-chip defensive players do play on the interior. Darnell Dockett and Calais Campbell are listed as defensive ends, but the hybrid nature of the Cardinals ' 3-4 scheme positions them at the 3-technique (outside shade of the offensive guard) and 5-technique (outside shade of the strong-side offensive tackle) on most downs. Dockett is one of the league's top interior defenders, possessing a combination of size, strength and power that overwhelms blockers at the point of attack. Campbell is emerging as an imposing force who wreaks havoc in the middle with his extraordinary length (6-foot-8) and athleticism. These two take turns dominating between the tackles, creating opportunities for Arizona's linebackers to roam freely through open gaps.

    Meanwhile, Washington and Lenon torment opponents from their inside linebacker spots on the second level. Both can play downhill against the run, while also showing exceptional skills as pass rushers. Safeties Adrian Wilson and Kerry Rhodes are punishing hitters with uncanny ball skills. Although both are at their best when positioned near the line of scrimmage, the duo's collective versatility allows Horton to vary coverages and blitzes according to matchups.

    With so much talent down the middle of the field, the Cardinals can force opponents to run to the edges, allowing their speedy and quick young defenders to win in pursuit. On passing downs, the presence of a handful of elite defenders between the hashes clogs the middle and forces quarterbacks to make lower-percentage throws to the perimeter. By making quarterbacks direct most of their passes outside of the numbers, the Cardinals decrease the effectiveness of the opponent's passing game and create more opportunities to attack with pressure.

    3) The Patrick Peterson factor. The myth of the "shutdown corner" has everyone ready to anoint any guy with decent cover skills as a blue-chip defender, but Peterson is on the cusp of joining the ranks of the truly elite. He is a talented athlete with a unique combination of size, strength and quickness that allows him to blanket the NFL's top receivers on the edge.

    While his game remains a work in progress, Peterson has made significant strides as a cover man in his second season. He is more patient at the line of scrimmage when playing bump-and-run, and he has learned how to take the proper angles to cut receivers off down the field when they escape the initial jams. This allows him to remain in proper position and rely on his natural instincts to make plays on the ball. Peterson can snuff out the opponent's top receiver with little safety help, letting the Cardinals aggressively pressure opponents without surrendering big plays.

    4) The Cardinals make foes kick the ball at the end of drives. The turnover statistic is routinely a point of emphasis for defensive coordinators, but Horton has the Cardinals excelling in two critical areas: third-down conversion rate and red-zone efficiency.

    Arizona is holding opponents to a 33 percent conversion rate on third downs, which ranks eighth in the NFL. This means the Cardinals are getting off the field in critical situations and forcing opponents to punt at the end of drives. Part of the Cardinals ' success on third down can be attributed to the diversity of their pass rush. The unit ranks second in the NFL in sacks (12) , with seven different players contributing to that total. As a result, opponents are unable to direct their pass protection to a designated player or side. Forcing quarterbacks to get rid of the ball quickly with their constant harassment, the Cardinals are winning critical downs on the strength of their pass rush.

    In the red zone, Arizona's defense holds opponents to field goals instead of touchdowns. The unit has allowed just two touchdowns in three games, forcing opponents to settle for nine field goals. As a result, the Cardinals rank second in the NFL in scoring defense (13.3 points per game) while holding 10 of their past 12 opponents to 20 points or fewer. After breaking down the Cardinals ' scheme, I was impressed with their ability to attack opponents with Cover-0 pressures inside the 10. The Cardinals routinely brought all-out blitzes against the Seahawks and Eagles when they penetrated the red zone, and the combination of pressure and coverage led to negative plays for the offense.
    http://m.nfl.com/news/0ap1000000066512/

    The only thing that scares me about this hire if true is that he could possibly be gone in a year or two because he is a top HC'ing candidate the past couple years and that would leave the Brownies searching for another DC in a year or two. But thats a future Browns problem.
    Last edited by ottograham14; 01-18-2013 at 08:46 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ottograham14 View Post
    The only thing that scares me about this hire if true is that he could possibly be gone in a year or two because he is a top HC'ing candidate the past couple years and that would leave the Brownies searching for another DC in a year or two. But thats a future Browns problem.
    Not really a problem the Browns are familiar with in recent years. I can't see Norv getting a head coaching job again after the Chargers meltdowns year after year so I could see him sticking around for a while. I would gladly see Horton take a HC job if he can turn the Browns defense into an elite unit. Typically if a co-ordinator moves on in a positive manner the team he leaves anticipates it happening and has someone waiting in the wings to take over.

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    Mary Kay Cabot ‏@MaryKayCabot
    Breaking: former #Browns personnel exec Mike Lombardi will be in Cleveland today for interview. If all goes well, could get GM job.
    Another thing not common Mary Kay breaking a story. I know it was mentioned yesterday Lombardi was in town but others have now confirmed his interview is today.

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    Keith Britton ‏@KeithBritton86
    Michael Lombardi is a legit candidate for #Browns GM job, I'm told. Not first talks. Has ties to nearly everyone on staff
    Interesting. Lombardi is now in the GM ring. It had seemed that there had been a consensus that he would be brought on as an advisor and not GM.

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    Update: Michael Lombardi's title in Cleveland will be VP player personnel.

    Schefter's Twitter account this morning

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    Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter
    Browns hired Michael Lombardi as their new GM.
    That was quick.

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    BUZZ KILL ALERT

    Lombardi as GM. Brutal...

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    Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter
    Update: Michael Lombardi's title in Cleveland will be VP player personnel.
    Mary Kay Cabot ‏@MaryKayCabot
    #Browns source told Plain Dealer that Mike Lombardi is Browns new GM Press conference at 11:30 today.
    Not sure if they are going after another GM as well. I know a couple of days ago, J&J said someone will have "GM" title.

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    I don't mind him in th VP position. So who will be the GM?

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    Quote Originally Posted by YSURocket View Post
    I don't mind him in th VP position. So who will be the GM?
    Not sure they will hire one. I think it all depends on Banner. Should be cleared up after the 11:30 presser if they are still looking for a GM or if Lombardi is the closest thing the Browns will have.

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    VP of player personnel, that sounds better than GM. Just don't give the man final say on roster moves or draft picks.

    Lombardi to New GM: "I really like this guy from _____ University. We should take him at #6."

    New GM to Lombardi: "Really appreciate your input Mike, but you're a ****ing idiot. We're gonna go with this guy."

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    Quote Originally Posted by brownies236 View Post
    That was quick.
    Not when its probably been this way for the past couple weeks and they just wanted to get their coaching hires handled first. Where there is smoke there is fire.

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