If the Colts keep winning somehow and win 10 or 11 games. And Luck doesn't get some votes, I'd be surprised.
I went him to be a rebel.
Cue people posting his stats next to the other players on this list.
What's funny about it? Ryan doesn't have a great o-line, running game, or elite defense to take the pressure off and still has a better record than both, beating one on the field in a head to head matchup. He definitely has a legitimate case to be in the discussion -- the stats back it up and they are where they are right now mostly because of him.Originally Posted by bosox3431
Peyton is the MVP. Watt and Rodgers are the only other cases I'm willing to listen to at this time. Maybe Brady if he has an awesome last few weeks.
AP, record be damned.
Im not saying ryan Isnt having a great year, he is, and by the end of the year could be the mvp. But right now, I have those two ahead of him and possibly AP.
I wouldn't disagree with AP. Dude is just ridiculous. Missing one game after tearing that ACL. WHat a joke.
I would say Rodgers or AP.
" Failure is only defined by someone's perception of what failing is."-His Airness
THE BAY IS BACK
That team did not believe they could win a game at times last year. They had no confidence. It was a can't do attitude. That has entirely changed.
I see 4 more wins there too. You nev er know they could get more. If they win 8 or 9 more games than next year, he SHOULD be in consideration despite the stats. I've never seen stats be so misleading towards a player anyways.
You laughed at the notion of Ryan being up there though. Then you're dissecting how they beat Denver to make the other guys look better, as if the other candidates have not barely scraped by good teams by or lost to teams that they should have handled fairly easily. All three teams have talented pass catchers. The Falcons defense has gotten by with forcing turnovers, I know you don't believe they have a better defense than the Broncos or Packers so I won't ask.Originally Posted by bosox3431
If you think Rodgers and Manning are superior to Ryan based on track record prior to this season, that's one thing and I agree with you. But to laugh at his 2012 credentials for an award based on the 2012 season is strange. There is a case for all of them. The laughter should be reserved for [insert other QB that everyone hyped up who hasn't quite lived up to expectations] because a lot of folks predicted the Falcons would finish last in the NFCS.
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John fox, for taking a chance on the better Manning.
Carson, trust me, even if you turn out to be a really bad QB, BDawk4Prez will always defend you on PSD.