"Best" and "Worst" Contract On Our Roster. (NO AMARE!!!)

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Who do you think are the "Dead Weights" or guys you think are Closest to becoming problems in the future?

You can't pick STAT. There's no fun in that.

You can choose "none" if you wish.

For me I would have to pick Raymond Felton. I felt like a 4 year commitment, for him was way too much. He did not deserve a four year contract (even at a $4M annual salary) He had the worst statistical year of his career with Portland, I don't understand who we were competing against.

We all knew he would come to NY rejuvenated. Just felt like he could come cheaper or with a less commitment than a 4 year contract.

You can pick any of the "older" Knicks players if you think health will be an issue for them later on. Although I don't think Camby's contract is the worst because the third year of his contract isn't guaranteed.

And Some of you may pick Tyson because his contract takes up a substantial part of our payroll. While, I think we overpaid for Tyson I believe he's earned most of the $13M-14M anual salary so far by Winning DPOY, Playing Defense every night, minimizing injuries, and not being Brendan Haywood.


For Your Convenience Here are the Knicks Contracts (Credit To Hoopshype)



-------------------12'-13 (This Season)---13'-14' ------14'-15'--------15'-16

Carmelo Anthony----$19,450,000-----$21,490,000---$23,530,000(PO)---$0

Tyson Chandler-----$13,604,188-----$14,100,538---$14,596,888-------$0

Steve Novak----- $4,054,055-------$3,750,001---$3,445,947-----------$3,750,000

Raymond Felton---$4,000,000----$4,180,000---$4,360,000--------------$4,540,000(PO)

Marcus Camby----$4,590,338----$3,383,773---$4,177,208(UG)----------$0

Jason Kidd--------$3,090,000----$3,090,000---$3,090,000--------------$0

Iman Shumpert----$1,680,360----$1,797,600---$2,761,113 (TO)--$3.9M(QO)

J.R. Smith---------$2,806,452-----$2,932,742(PO)

Kurt Thomas-------$1,352,181

Rasheed Wallace---$1,352,181

Ronnie Brewer------$1,069,509

Pablo Prigioni-------$473,604

Chris Copeland-----$473,604


(PO)= Player Option

(TO)= Team Option

(UG)= Salary Not Fully Guaranteed

**(QO)= Qualifying Offer. Knicks can choose to offer Shumpert a one year $3.9M Salary for the '15-16 Season.** If Shumpert rejects this Qualifying Offer, Knicks can still match any contract offered to Shump by another team and keep him.**

Also for fun, Who you think has the "Best" contract is on this roster?

For me, I'll have to go with J.R. Smith

I feel like the fact JR Smith took a hometown discount to resign with us, the 6th man Role He's In, and a coach who believes in him is going to make J.R. a big part of our future.

Playing for a measly $2.8M salary this year, with a $3M Player Option for next season, an option he will surely decline. But since Smith has been on the Knicks for two years J.R. is eligible for "Early Bird Rights", allowing the Knicks to exceed the salary Cap to sign Him up to a four year contract starting at $5.3M in '13-14.

I don't think Carmelo has the "best" contract. He's making $19M this season, $21M next season, and $23M the third season. For that amount of money he's making and the amount of salary cap space it takes, he better play like LeBron. (Or maintain how he's played so far four games into the season)

[Anji]

AMRI, only the worst contract in the league would need to be qualified as "not an option" in a debate.

[xabial]

AMRI, only the worst contract in the league would need to be qualified as "not an option" in a debate.

Everyone is going to pick Amare for "worst contract". Its not going to be a fun or exciting debate.

Outside Amar'e you can pick anyone for "worst", and fyi I actually think Amar'e is the worst contract in the league as of right now because he gets injured every year, his contract is uninsured, he has previous Knee issues, He makes $20M+ every year for three years, and Gilbert Arenas/Rashard Lewis's Old Contracts have expired. To his credit, he hasn't ever had a season ending injury while playing for the Knicks but I feel like he's a walking time bomb waiting to happen because of his injury history as evident by his latest injury which is keeping him out for the next 6-8 weeks.

[TheNumber37]

right now, Brewer and smith are the best deals and I think white is the worst cause it was guaranteed. also, white is not on the list.

[Dankster]

How is Felton your worst contract?? The guy is just entering his prime right now and has a 3 year contract with the team. Am I missing something??

Last year, he averaged a shade over 11 points and 6 assists in his worst year statistically in the league. Those #'s are considered average for a starting PG, and the average starting PG salary is closer to the mid-level exception price than what Felton is making.

I don't think he's an All Star in the making, but if he continues posting #'s over 12 ppg and 6 apg, I don't see how his contract isn't one of the better ones on this roster.

I love this guy, but Steve Novak to me is definitely the most overpaid player on our team. I'm also a little baffled as to the length of his contract, for someone as one-dimensional as him to receive a 4 year 16 million dollar deal is a little too exorbitant. But to his defense, I've seen him play much better this year on the defensive end. He's not as big of a liability as he was last year on that side of the court.

[StarvingKnick22]

Sorry, but...Amare has the worst.

[xabial]

How is Felton your worst contract?? The guy is just entering his prime right now and has a 3 year contract with the team. Am I missing something??

Last year, he averaged a shade over 11 points and 6 assists in his worst year statistically in the league. Those #'s are considered average for a starting PG, and the average starting PG salary is closer to the mid-level exception price than what Felton is making.

I don't think he's an All Star in the making, but if he continues posting #'s over 12 ppg and 6 apg, I don't see how his contract isn't one of the better ones on this roster.

I love this guy, but Steve Novak to me is definitely the most overpaid player on our team. I'm also a little baffled as to the length of his contract, for someone as one-dimensional as him to receive a 4 year 16 million dollar deal is a little too exorbitant. But to his defense, I've seen him play much better this year on the defensive end. He's not as big of a liability as he was last year on that side of the court.

Felton has a four year contract. In the 4th year of his contract, Felton has a player option at $4.8M that he can choose to accept or reject. If Felton accepts his player option the total package of his contract rises to four years and nearly $15M.

I don't like his poor shot selection. (.404%) which is WAY BELOW LEAGUE AVERAGE IMO. I think averaging 6 assists is an easy accomplishment in this Loaded Knicks Lineup. Last game he shot 3-11 and usually his shot selection is horrid. If Felton fixed his shot selection, he would be perfect but throughout his career he has been a chucker, which pisses me off.

[Dankster]

^^That's still under 4 million per year for a starting PG who averages over 12 ppg, 6 apg and 2 steals per game. I'm still a bit confused as to why you think he has the worst contract on the team (aside from Stoudemire of course.)

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^^That's still under 4 million per year for a starting PG who averages over 12 ppg, 6 apg and 2 steals per game. I'm still a bit confused as to why you think he has the worst contract on the team (aside from Stoudemire of course.)

I believe PG can be a position of upgrade on this team. Felton isn't as bad as the days when we had Chris Doo Doo running our Starting Point, but I believe the PG position can't be upgraded if we have our Point of the Future signed to a long-term four year contract at $4M-$5M per year. With Felton signed long term Knicks management will just be satisfied with what they have at PG, and not put in an effort to upgrade that position for the considerable future.


Feels like we outbid ourselves, and giving Felton a maximum of three years would've been perfect, especially for a Player who gave up on his team last season., and put up the lowest statistical season of his career in nearly every category.

[NYY 26 to 7]

Looking at these contracts grunwald deserves major credit there is no bad deal on there. I would say Camby is the worst for me because he is really old and his whole career he has been an injury waiting to happen. I think he will give us good minutes and be a strong backup center and I'm glad we have him though. I'm going to say the best could be Felton. If you can have an above average pg for 4 mill per over the next 4 years that is a really good deal. Is it a slight risk because of his weight issues in the past and struggles in place other than NY - perhaps a little but this team was capped out anyway and he could be a very good player in his prime locked up for cheap for 4 years. Tough guy fits in well in NY.

[OZknickerbocker]

I believe PG can be a position of upgrade on this team. Felton isn't as bad as the days when we had Chris Doo Doo running our Starting Point, but I believe the PG position can't be upgraded if we have our Point of the Future signed to a long-term four year contract at $4M-$5M per year. With Felton signed long term Knicks management will just be satisfied with what they have at PG, and not put in an effort to upgrade that position for the considerable future.


Feels like we outbid ourselves, and giving Felton a maximum of three years would've been perfect, especially for a Player who gave up on his team last season., and put up the lowest statistical season of his career in nearly every category.

stop hating on ray ray, id rather his contract then paying jeremy lin 25 mil
raymond felton was almost an all star last time round with us and has great chemistry with stat and god knows thats one thing we need when he gets inserted back into the starting job.
Personally i think novaks contract is a joke, for a player that has zero basketball skill aside from dropping 3's i think he deserved much less, but after winning the bird rights case, we would of looked dumb to give him anything less

[Antipod]

He "worst" must be the ones of Kidd and Camby. IN the final 3rd year, they`ll be like 50 and just an off the court support to the team.

[THE MTL]

No way does Felton have the worst contract. We're paying 4 million per year for a starting PG.

I dont include the fourth year cause its a player option. And anyone is this case would DECLINE it. He'll still be in his prime when the 3yrs are up and if he continues to play like he has, he'll earn more. Also, even if he does decline......he would probi rather extend his contract for more length at a lower salary.

I know the debate is not fun, but Amare is ABOVE and BEYOND the worst contract on this roster. I cant bring myself to "not include" Amare.

[BklynKnicks3]

Melo should get 2 mac contracts if he beats the 2 cowards in miami with out a 2nd supersar. Best is Jr and brewer by Far. After that every1 makes what they deserve camby makes alittle to much and so does novak.

[Brendan_05nets]

camby probably