Jaguars 2013 Draft Talk - Part III

[jobclarke]

Sucks when the highlight of our year is the draft lol wish we could start being more competitive...

the draft and seeing if we can finish worse than the Chiefs

[DavidR]

Not trying to be racist or anything, but have we ever had a good ending with a black QB. I mean if we end up with Geno Smith, he could end up like Leftwich, or Garrard. Just something someone pointed out to me earlier.

[TDjacksonville]

Not trying to be racist or anything, but have we ever had a good ending with a black QB. I mean if we end up with Geno Smith, he could end up like Leftwich, or Garrard. Just something someone pointed out to me earlier.

look at the superbowl rings. 1 Black qb(Doug Williams) has one and the rest are white.

[Alpha Dog]

look at the superbowl rings. 1 Black qb(Doug Williams) has one and the rest are white.

...and none of them are as white as Gabbert.

[jobclarke]

well there really isnt a large sample size for the black qb's as opposed to the white ones.

[TDjacksonville]

well there really isnt a large sample size for the black qb's as opposed to the white ones.

ya but if u look at all the Wonderlic scores they are 90% of the time lower than a white qbs score which says they are stupider or dont process information as well as white qbs.

[WolvesJagsOs]

ya but if u look at all the Wonderlic scores they are 90% of the time lower than a white qbs score which says they are stupider or dont process information as well as white qbs.

Enough, right now.

That is racism right there. That is not allowed.

[DavidR]

I've always wondered why there aren't many black QB's.

[flgatorsandjags]

Offseason Plan

1.Fire Gene
2.Fire Coach
3.Hire real GM and let him bring in a good coach
4.Cut all the players that plays poorly every game on this team. Ross, Prosinski, Whimper, ect...........
5.Resign a couple of players.D. Smith,G. Jones, Cox and maybe Knighton if he plays good the rest of the season
6.1st couple or picks draft Jarvis Jones and a CB or trade back and take Warmack and in the 2nd go CB and OLB
7.Fix oline in free agency
8.Sign a good vet backup QB. Jason Campbell, Kyle Orton, Matt Hasselback
9.Draft or sign a recieving TE and if any cap room is left sign depth
10.Win games

[TDjacksonville]

Enough, right now.

That is racism right there. That is not allowed.

all i will say is look at the combine wonderlic scores and compare for yourself.

[Jags4Life]

I mean its just usually thebafrican American abs are more runners and option style qbs while the Caucasian ate pocket style qbs and the nfl is a pocket passing qb league.

[TDjacksonville]

Offseason Plan

1.Fire Gene
2.Fire Coach
3.Hire real GM and let him bring in a good coach
4.Cut all the players that plays poorly every game on this team. Ross, Prosinski, Whimper, ect...........
5.Resign a couple of players.D. Smith,G. Jones, Cox and maybe Knighton if he plays good the rest of the season
6.1st couple or picks draft Jarvis Jones and a CB or trade back and take Warmack and in the 2nd go CB and OLB
7.Fix oline in free agency
8.Sign a good vet backup QB. Jason Campbell, Kyle Orton, Matt Hasselback
9.Draft or sign a recieving TE and if any cap room is left sign depth
10.Win games

1) Prosinski isnt starting quality but hes a good dime back and STer. he provides average depth there and just needs some development. dont see us cutting ross cuz that will just make our CB Position very bare with only mike harris and maybe rutland there. whimper is a decent backup linemen who we should convert to TE as he plays loads better there so he should be a good option as a 2 te but keep him listed as an OT .

2) number 8 is not needed. henne played good enough last week to stay for another year and can push gabbert.

[TDjacksonville]

I mean its just usually thebafrican American abs are more runners and option style qbs while the Caucasian ate pocket style qbs and the nfl is a pocket passing qb league.

of course there are some exceptions to that rule like Teblow and soon to be Klein and lefty is a drop back but other than that i agree.

[TDjacksonville]

1) we fire Gene smith and the entire front office and hire Kevin Abrams of the giants.
2) Abrams decides to give Mularkey another year to see if hes a good HC or not. this also allows Gabbert to have some Continuity and allow him more development.
3) we cut Sessions because he will never play again it seems. if he wants back minimum deal only. we also cut Spitz cuz he sucks and not worh 1.5 million
4) we let go: FB Bolen, LB Bosworth, G/C Estes, S Harris, CB mathis, CB Middleton, RB/KR Parmele, TE Potter, TE Stovall, FB a'ufo'ou, G/C Vallos.
5) we keep: OT/G Britton(short term deal for depth), Chick(ERFA so hes a no brainer to bring back for how effective hes been as a Pass rusher for us), CB Cox(our best corner should be kept even if hes a bit injury prone), RB jennings(seems to be a good 3rd down back), FB Jones(good leadblocker and All-pro), DT Knighton(1 year deal with incentives to see if hes going to play like he did this year or improve to his old self), C Meester(1 year deal to be a veteren menter in the lockroom), Selvie(playing like a good pass rusher so far and seems to be worth keeping), LB Smith(our best defensive player is a no brainer to keep), WR/PR Spurlock(first i didnt like him but now i see wat we brought him. seems like a good slot wr who can make plays. hes not much of a return guy imo).
6) we Sign: RB/WR/KR/PR Danny Woodhead, CB Brent Grimes.
7) We trade MJD to the packers for a 2nd round pick. we trade pick 2 and 98 to rams for pick 7 and 10. we then flip 7 over to dolphins for 14 and 55.


8) Draft
round 1: Chance Warmack G Alabama
round 1: Jake Matthews OT Texas A&M
round 2: C.J. Fiedorowicz TE Iowa
round 2: Giovanni Bernard RB UNC
round 2: Logan Ryan CB Rutgers
round 3: Sean Porter OLB Texas A&M
round 5: Robert Alford CB Southeastern Louisiana
round 6: Devin Taylor DE South Carolina
round 7: Brandon Williams DT Missouri Southern State

DC:

QB: Gabbert/Henne
RB: Bernard/Jennings/Woodhead
FB: Jones/Owens
WR X: Shorts/Elliot
WR Y: Blackmon/Spurlock
WR Z: Robinson/Blackmon
TE: Lewis/Fiedorowicz/Veldman
LT: Monroe/Bradfield
LG: Warmack/Brewster/Rackley
C: Rackley/Brewster/Meester
RG: Nwaneri/Brewster/Rackley
RT: Matthews/Bradfield/Whimper

LE: Lane/Chick/Selvie
NT: Knighton/Mosley/Pendleton
UT: Alualu/Smith/Williams
RE: Mincey/Branch/Taylor
SLB: Porter/Allen
MLB: Poz/Smith/Jones
WLB: Smith/Allen/Jones
LCB: Grimes/Ryan/Rutland
Slot CB: Ryan/Harris
RCB: Cox/Ryan/Rutland
FS: Lowery/Prosinski
SS: Landry/Blake

LS: Cain
K: Scobee
P: Anger
KR: Woodhead
PR: Woodhead

Numbers By Position
QB: 2
Backs: 5
WR: 5
TE: 3
O-line: 9
D-line: 12
LB: 5
CB: 5
S: 4
LS: 1
K: 1
P: 1
total: 53

little heavy on the dline but thats always fine by me.

[DavidR]

I'm honestly losing faith in Jennings.