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    Pitching Options if Kuroda Leaves

    Just curious to see what you guys think are feasible pitching targets (Trade or FA) if Kuroda leaves for another team or Japan. The Dodgers seem like they'll pay whatever for whoever so this scenario is becoming more realistic. Doesn't look like Pineda could take his spot until July and even then Cashman won't know what he has in Pineda until May/June when he can see him pitch.

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    Brandon McCarthy is definitely an undervalued starting pitcher on this year's free agent market. I would definitely look into what it takes to bring him in. He took a line drive to the face, but was so consistent in Oakland.

    Edwin Jackson seemingly goes to the playoffs with every team he plays for and he pitches to the tune of 200 Innings almost every year. Yankees almost acquired him with Granderson, and I've always seen him as a potential Yankee.

    Shaun Marcum has pitched in the AL East before and when healthy has posted very good numbers with a very solid WHIP a 3.50 ERA and double digit wins. He seems like the most likely guy to replace Kuroda. Just needs to stay healthy.

    I would look at these three free agents. We would do well inserting either one into the rotation behind CC. Marcum is 31 while Jackson and McCarthy are both 29, so we get younger in the process. Wouldn't mind any of em.

    Let Swisher, Kuroda, and Soriano leave now that they declined QO's. We would be loaded with draft picks.
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    If Kuroda leaves, and its apparent he will because the Yanks aren't offering ANYONE a multi year deal until 2015, we would have:

    CC
    Andy
    Hughes
    Nova
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    In 2013. Plus some scrap heap vets on one year deals that cash will scoop up late. Just like colon, Fred, Lowe, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by leoharris View Post
    If Kuroda leaves, and its apparent he will because the Yanks aren't offering ANYONE a multi year deal until 2015, we would have:

    CC
    Andy
    Hughes
    Nova
    Phelps

    In 2013. Plus some scrap heap vets on one year deals that cash will scoop up late. Just like colon, Fred, Lowe, etc.
    And that basically gives us a repeat of 2008. But cutting payroll will eff them shortterm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leoharris View Post
    If Kuroda leaves, and its apparent he will because the Yanks aren't offering ANYONE a multi year deal until 2015, we would have:

    CC
    Andy
    Hughes
    Nova
    Phelps

    In 2013. Plus some scrap heap vets on one year deals that cash will scoop up late. Just like colon, Fred, Lowe, etc.
    Blatant hyperbole.

    1. Has Kuroda actually said he wants more than a 1 year deal? Source?

    2. So we're not going to resign Swisher, or Cano, or Granderson, or Hughes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rylinkus View Post
    Blatant hyperbole.

    1. Has Kuroda actually said he wants more than a 1 year deal? Source?

    2. So we're not going to resign Swisher, or Cano, or Granderson, or Hughes?
    1- If he only wanted one year, he would have accepted a 33% raise.
    2- correct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by leoharris View Post
    1- If he only wanted one year, he would have accepted a 33% raise.
    2- correct.
    Unless he wanted more time to think about his options. We always play this game where we assume the only thing that motivates a player is money. We know that's not correct. We've seen examples of guys who take less to play where they want to play. Maybe he's not sure about where he wants to play, whether it be NY, Japan, LA, etc.

    And you're insane if you don't think one of Hughes, Cano, Granderson, or Swisher gets signed to a multi year deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rylinkus View Post
    Unless he wanted more time to think about his options. We always play this game where we assume the only thing that motivates a player is money. We know that's not correct. We've seen examples of guys who take less to play where they want to play. Maybe he's not sure about where he wants to play, whether it be NY, Japan, LA, etc.

    And you're insane if you don't think one of Hughes, Cano, Granderson, or Swisher gets signed to a multi year deal.
    Cano only. Nobody else has a chance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by leoharris View Post
    1- If he only wanted one year, he would have accepted a 33% raise.
    2- correct.
    i calmost promise you that offer will be waiting for kuroda if he decides to come back., so i think you are reading to much into that
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    Quote Originally Posted by leoharris View Post
    1- If he only wanted one year, he would have accepted a 33% raise.
    2- correct.
    I think the 13.3M qualifying offer does not include a no trade clause, which Kuroda wants. Cashman has said he thinks the biggest threat of losing Kuroda is from Kuroda wanting to go back to Japan, not to another team. 1 yr/15M with a no trade clause would probably seal the deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theslick1 View Post
    I think the 13.3M qualifying offer does not include a no trade clause, which Kuroda wants. Cashman has said he thinks the biggest threat of losing Kuroda is from Kuroda wanting to go back to Japan, not to another team. 1 yr/15M with a no trade clause would probably seal the deal.
    Word. Not sure what to believe. Some reports said he wants 2 yrs. yanks won't do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rylinkus View Post
    Blatant hyperbole.

    1. Has Kuroda actually said he wants more than a 1 year deal? Source?

    2. So we're not going to resign Swisher, or Cano, or Granderson, or Hughes?
    Money and or years is no issue for Kuroda....his homeland is calling, that is the issue....
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    Quote Originally Posted by leoharris View Post
    If Kuroda leaves, and its apparent he will because the Yanks aren't offering ANYONE a multi year deal until 2015, we would have:

    CC
    Andy
    Hughes
    Nova
    Phelps

    In 2013. Plus some scrap heap vets on one year deals that cash will scoop up late. Just like colon, Fred, Lowe, etc.
    That's not a bad rotation. Then you send Joba and Pineda to extended ST so they will be ready June 1.

    I ld be happy with that although we all know the brass ain't starting joba. Dumb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laying Low View Post
    That's not a bad rotation. Then you send Joba and Pineda to extended ST so they will be ready June 1.

    I ld be happy with that although we all know the brass ain't starting joba. Dumb.
    Yeah, I mean Joba is a good reliever but I don't get it either. But what were they doing w/ Joba when he came back from his injury, it kind of looked like they were trying to stretch him out... pitching him more than one inning at a time.
    Suck it

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    Joba should stay in the bullpen where he belongs. We need him there to be a bridge to Mariano, more than we need him as a starting pitcher. I would rather not see a repeat of the situation Boston faced with Daniel Bard in the rotation.

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