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    Quote Originally Posted by AI4LIFE View Post
    I don't think Lavarnway will ever be the .290/.380/.500 catcher he was in the minors. However, I do think he'll be .275/.340/.450 catcher which is still pretty valuauble.
    Can you name more than 2-3 catchers in the history of the game that were .380/.500 catchers?


    6/27/09: “We expect [Rondo] to play by the rules and be a leader as a point guard. We need him to be more of a leader,” Ainge said. “There were just a couple situations where he was late this year, I don’t know if he was sitting in his car, but showed up late and the rest of the team was there. We have team rules and you have to be on time. He was fined for being late, he said he was stuck in traffic, and it’s just unacceptable.”

    Some jerks never learn.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by bagwell368 View Post
    Can you name more than 2-3 catchers in the history of the game that were .380/.500 catchers?
    Just tempering expectations here, chicken-little gang seems to think he's the second coming of christ.

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    Found this good read

    BOSTON (CBS) – When you first hear “the Red Sox have signed Ross”, you immediately think of Cody Ross and not David.

    But, that’s just what the Red Sox did over the weekend, agreeing to a two-year deal with catcher David Ross worth a reported $6.2 million. On paper, it’s a ho-hum back-up catcher signing, with Ross backing up Brian McCann in Atlanta the last four years.

    However, I think this signing is a strong indication of what this team is thinking about as far as righting the last place ship: pitching.

    Ben Cherington, John Farrell, Juan Nieves, and Gary Tuck probably sat down and discussed what is needed first and foremost on this team. That was a catcher who knows how to call a game, has experience with great pitching staffs, and one that can mentor younger catchers.

    They now have that in David Ross.


    The Red Sox now have a guy who knows this market too, having played eight games with Boston in 2008. He can work with Ryan Lavarnway and/or Jarrod Saltalamacchia to help them learn their craft, call games, work with younger pitchers, etc. Boston lost that when Jason Varitek hung up his cleats.

    The 35-year-old Ross also becomes an extension of Farrell and Nieves. A signing like this shows me that Farrell understands that fixing this pitching staff is priority numbers one, two, and three with the Sox. Fix Lester, Buchholz, Bard, Bailey, etc and this team has a chance.

    The obvious question is what happens next at the catching position? Does Lavarnway head back down to Pawtucket to get more experience behind the plate? Do Lavarnway and Salty stay with Salty seeing time against right-handers at first base? Or does Salty hit the trade market? And, will Ross split duties with either one?

    I know the Sox love Lavarnway’s potential and I know Lavarnway isn’t worried about his abysmal .157 batting average last season. He knows it will come around.

    I now wonder if the Sox are also thinking about “letting the kids play” in 2013.

    Maybe Larvarnway, Jose Iglesias, and Ryan Kalish come into camp and the regular season with the “it’s their jobs to lose” label.

    We’ll see, but one thing I will say is don’t underestimate how important the November 10th, 2012 signing of David Ross was to the 2013 Boston Red Sox.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bagwell368 View Post
    Can you name more than 2-3 catchers in the history of the game that were .380/.500 catchers?
    The only one I could come up with was Buster Posey .380/.503

    The closest besides him was Piazza .377/.545

    other than that, only 7 with OBP that high, and 4 with Slug % that high...

    but none with both....

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    Quote Originally Posted by taffi101 View Post
    The only one I could come up with was Buster Posey .380/.503

    The closest besides him was Piazza .377/.545

    other than that, only 7 with OBP that high, and 4 with Slug % that high...

    but none with both....
    Thanks, and Posey is a long way from his decline, when he's done, he'll be under as well.

    .264/.329/.439 average from 2014-2018 would be quite fine for Lavarnway - at catcher.


    6/27/09: “We expect [Rondo] to play by the rules and be a leader as a point guard. We need him to be more of a leader,” Ainge said. “There were just a couple situations where he was late this year, I don’t know if he was sitting in his car, but showed up late and the rest of the team was there. We have team rules and you have to be on time. He was fined for being late, he said he was stuck in traffic, and it’s just unacceptable.”

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    This signing is such an eyebrow raiser for so many reasons, not because I disagree with it, but because of the potential snowball effect. I won't know how I feel about this until the other shoe drops. Unless we are getting relatively young pitching back, I'm inclined to hold on to lavarnway. I feel like salty is what we saw last year. There is value in that for sure, but I would rather see what lavarnway can be especially with Ross as a safety net.

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    There is value in Salty? He calls a bad game, is horrible behind the plate, can't get on base, strikes out way too much, I don't see the value. If by value you mean hitting 20+ HR's then by your definition Mark Reynolds is an extremely valuable player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bagwell368 View Post
    Thanks, and Posey is a long way from his decline, when he's done, he'll be under as well.

    .264/.329/.439 average from 2014-2018 would be quite fine for Lavarnway - at catcher.
    Yup, that would be just fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AI4LIFE View Post
    There is value in Salty? He calls a bad game, is horrible behind the plate, can't get on base, strikes out way too much, I don't see the value. If by value you mean hitting 20+ HR's then by your definition Mark Reynolds is an extremely valuable player.
    Don't say that too loud, you might start a campaign for Reynolds at 1B...lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by taffi101 View Post
    Don't say that too loud, you might start a campaign for Reynolds at 1B...lol
    Salty had a 31.0% K% this year plus his line is almost an exact repeat of 2011. Difference? He hit 9 more HR's. Guy is a bum and a very overrated one at that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AI4LIFE View Post
    Salty had a 31.0% K% this year plus his line is almost an exact repeat of 2011. Difference? He hit 9 more HR's. Guy is a bum and a very overrated one at that.
    Agreed...and he's going to start becoming a more expensive one. Final arb year, and those 23 HR's are going to net him a little raise.....

    We got him for little or nothing, time to get something for him while he has some semblance of value....

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    Quote Originally Posted by AI4LIFE View Post
    There is value in Salty? He calls a bad game, is horrible behind the plate, can't get on base, strikes out way too much, I don't see the value. If by value you mean hitting 20+ HR's then by your definition Mark Reynolds is an extremely valuable player.
    I agree, not really a fan of his at all. For any real return it would have to be a package deal, but a Cather who does ANYTHING with the bat (I.e. HRs) has some value. Sort offensive statistics for catchers last year who caught as many games, it's not pretty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taffi101 View Post
    Don't say that too loud, you might start a campaign for Reynolds at 1B...lol
    Wouldnt shock me considering what we've seen spewed out the last week or so.

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    Mark Reynolds in 6 seasons (stats adjusted to 155 games/season) is averaging 201 k's/year. Thats impressive. As an everyday MLB player you have to try to suck that bad.

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    Any chance we sign another catcher and use lav and salty as trade bait ?

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