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    Quote Originally Posted by Tragedy View Post
    lol, I was being serious. I love what Brady has done in his career, and his story to superstardom is pretty remarkable. But Brady is also 36 and has shown signs of slowing down (he has no ability to throw the deep ball already). Luck has so much potential it's not even funny. I'd do it all day, every day.
    I believe you I, was afraid I would be a laughing stock for asking this question. To bad we can't have the Brady from 01-07.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tragedy View Post
    lol, I was being serious. I love what Brady has done in his career, and his story to superstardom is pretty remarkable. But Brady is also 36 and has shown signs of slowing down (he has no ability to throw the deep ball already). Luck has so much potential it's not even funny. I'd do it all day, every day.
    Huh? I don't think he's been any different from the last 2 years, nor do I think he's lost any arm strength, which you seem to be implying. Is he his 2007 self? No but that knee injury didn't help obviously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PatsSoxKnicks View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tragedy View Post
    lol, I was being serious. I love what Brady has done in his career, and his story to superstardom is pretty remarkable. But Brady is also 36 and has shown signs of slowing down (he has no ability to throw the deep ball already). Luck has so much potential it's not even funny. I'd do it all day, every day.
    Huh? I don't think he's been any different from the last 2 years, nor do I think he's lost any arm strength, which you seem to be implying. Is he his 2007 self? No but that knee injury didn't help obviously.
    He didnt have the deep ball last year, either. I'm not saying the guy sucks. He's still top notch. But how many years does he have left with being a top QB?

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    I think Luck is definitely the best QB to come out of the draft in quite some time. I foresee a quick rise to stardom and a long prosperous career. I wouldn't yet trade Brady for Luck because of the command Brady has on this offense, but in a year or 2, definitely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donjamin View Post
    I think Luck is definitely the best QB to come out of the draft in quite some time. I foresee a quick rise to stardom and a long prosperous career. I wouldn't yet trade Brady for Luck because of the command Brady has on this offense, but in a year or 2, definitely.
    In a year or two the price would be Brady, Gronk, and the entire draft in 2015 and 2016.

    Luck is already far more valuable than Brady. It's not even close. Smell the coffee.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bagwell368 View Post
    49'ers dealt Montana.
    Would they have if his backup wasn't named Steve Young?
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    I think you all overrate Luck and underrate Brady. Luck has a 79 rating 10 TD's and 9 INT's. Hardly lighting it up. RGIII has actually been much better than Luck has been this year.
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    Have you actually watched a single game he's played? There's a difference between how Luck is compiling his stats and how Mark Sanchez is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by celtisox41 View Post
    I think you all overrate Luck and underrate Brady. Luck has a 79 rating 10 TD's and 9 INT's. Hardly lighting it up. RGIII has actually been much better than Luck has been this year.
    He's a rookie. None of that is an indictment on his talents. Go back and look at Peyton Manning's rookie season, for example.

    If you watch him (I've watched 3 Colts games, I was even at their win against GB so maybe that has me drinking the Kool Aid) and you'll see the tools, upside and talent he has slap you in the face. It's obvious how good this guy is going to be. He's still figuring things out, and it's definitely an adjustment, but he's as well-rounded of a QB to come out of college in a long time.

    Think long-term, and this is a no-brainer. Luck's value right now is great than Brady's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bagwell368 View Post
    In a year or two the price would be Brady, Gronk, and the entire draft in 2015 and 2016.

    Luck is already far more valuable than Brady. It's not even close. Smell the coffee.
    I don't recall refuting the fact that Luck is more valuable than Brady. Of course he is, that's pretty evident to anyone. Football players don't get more valuable as they get older. And yes obviously the price to obtain him even now would be insane, again I don't recall stating otherwise. I simply stated that at this given moment I would not pull the trigger. I'm sorry you opted to over analyze my post. This tread after all, is a fantasy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tragedy View Post
    He didnt have the deep ball last year, either. I'm not saying the guy sucks. He's still top notch. But how many years does he have left with being a top QB?
    Well last year, he didn't really have anyone who could really stretch the field. He's got Lloyd this year and they haven't really connected the way everyone hoped but they haven't exactly tried to go deep that much either. But if you watch Brady throw, he's certainly still got the arm- a lot of his deep balls seem to be overthrown this year.
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    Who honestly wouldn't?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldDustTwin View Post
    Would they have if his backup wasn't named Steve Young?
    Steve Young wasn't yet Steve Young when Montana was dealt. Just a promising guy coming off a really meh early career.

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    all HOF'ers were dealt. Kurt Warner was let go, and someday, don't laugh, he'll be a HOF too. There are plenty of others including Bledsoe.
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    6/27/09: “We expect [Rondo] to play by the rules and be a leader as a point guard. We need him to be more of a leader,” Ainge said. “There were just a couple situations where he was late this year, I don’t know if he was sitting in his car, but showed up late and the rest of the team was there. We have team rules and you have to be on time. He was fined for being late, he said he was stuck in traffic, and it’s just unacceptable.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by PatsSoxKnicks View Post
    Well last year, he didn't really have anyone who could really stretch the field. He's got Lloyd this year and they haven't really connected the way everyone hoped but they haven't exactly tried to go deep that much either. But if you watch Brady throw, he's certainly still got the arm- a lot of his deep balls seem to be overthrown this year.
    Right. Brady is wild deep - indicates strength, but not touch. He's throwing into the ground on one side, and floating the ball on the other side.

    I heard from my x Pats friend/and current around the team guy about a week ago that Brady has had a number of scopes in his shoulder. It's clean and tight now, but, it keeps going in the crapper.
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    6/27/09: “We expect [Rondo] to play by the rules and be a leader as a point guard. We need him to be more of a leader,” Ainge said. “There were just a couple situations where he was late this year, I don’t know if he was sitting in his car, but showed up late and the rest of the team was there. We have team rules and you have to be on time. He was fined for being late, he said he was stuck in traffic, and it’s just unacceptable.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by bagwell368 View Post
    Steve Young wasn't yet Steve Young when Montana was dealt. Just a promising guy coming off a really meh early career.

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    all HOF'ers were dealt. Kurt Warner was let go, and someday, don't laugh, he'll be a HOF too. There are plenty of others including Bledsoe.
    I dunno why anyone would laugh at Kurt Warner being HOF. He was the best QB in the league for 4 years in his career (unless you're a huge Favre homer), 2 time MVP, Super Bowl MVP, and took another dead-*** franchise to the Super Bowl. I think he was the best in the league in the late 90s (Favre included). I think most people take it as a given that he's in.

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