victorino signing now seems to be official
that's a big overpay, even if it's only 3 years. I thought Victorino would get 10 yearly max.
I guess the Sox didn't like being bereft of bad contracts?
^ i'd say even 10 is an overpay. oh well. atleast there is not questioning his defence i guess? but his bat and declining speed may be an issue
its actually 3/39. how they figure that he should be paid equal to napoli is beyond me.Jeff Passan @JeffPassan
Total cost of Napoli, Victorino, Papi, Gomes and Ross: $120.2 million already spent by the Red Sox.
Last edited by PeterH; 12-04-2012 at 06:49 PM.
Victorino's fangraphs value, prior 3 years:
Obviously it takes a hit if he doesn't play centerfield, with Ellsbury there, but Ellsbury may only be there for one year, if that. And not sure Victorino's performance will fall off a cliff. It shouldn't be a terrible deal. Likely, it won't be a bad deal. But it isn't a value play.
i dont even think victorino was worth 13 million a year 3 or 4 years ago when he was somewhat good.
yeah Upton is younger but he is what he is at this point and isn't gonna get much better
Not saying that its a good deal for the Sox but i think both this and the Upton deal were awful..
This deal is bad for the Sox not because of Vic's skill set, but because of where they are gonna plug him in
If you're a fan of Victorino you have to hope the bat is going to go back to the career averages. He's not exactly young either, and at 33 you have to figure his best days are gone. The power completely disappeared (128 ISO vs 212 last year and 170 the year before) and his production tanked once he was traded to the Dodgers (667 OPS). He was pretty worthless vs RHP last year (629 OPS) but was fantastic vs LHP (906 OPS). Two of the past 3 years he's had an OPS under 700 vs RHP.
I think that's the bigger issue with the deal. If you believe his D and plus bat vs LHP are good enough to offset the fact that he's worthless against RHP, then it's a solid deal. The age and the decline in his bat is a bit worrisome to me so I'm not a huge fan of the deal.
And by the way, those pants, they belong to my dad.And they're not really pants,
Seems to me like they are going to try and move Ellsbury for pitching. Victorino is a cheaper replacement in CF.