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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffy25 View Post
    Not arguing for or against Headley here....but.


    I did manage to watch several Headley games this year (being a west coast team, I would watch a lot of Padres games after the Cards would go to bed).

    Headley was very sound defensively in the games I watched. Wright clearly has more range. But he was sound.

    UZR and DRS, I will always stand by those over my own perceptions. But my perceptions also tell me that Headley was average to slightly better than average defensively.

    Then again, I didn't watch every game, and I can't keep, with an open mind, his ability to get to balls and throw guys out comparatively to the rest of the league.

    But when I saw his defensive metrics slightly in the negative, I was a little surprised, he seems better than his numbers would indicate.


    Wright meanwhile, very good this year. Def better than he was in years past too. A ton more range it seemed.
    I can only tell you my perspective from what i saw of David Wright.

    Although obviously it's hard to be objective, he was much better on eye test alone than he was in 2007 and 2008 when he won the GG in successive years.

    Wright's biggest problem has always been his arm strength and admittedly Ike Davis has saved him on more than a few occasions but i think those UZR/DRS numbers where pretty accurate when you got to see Wright's body of work defensively this year.

    I can understand Headley was better than the numbers indicated and maybe they were more equal than given credit for.

    It's not a major injustice, i know the GG system is flawed (considering some of the picks in recent years) but it frustrates me when any guy is dicked out of an award he probably deserves.

    I feel the same way about Trout in regards to the GG and will if he loses the MVP too.
    Last edited by metswon69; 11-09-2012 at 12:50 AM.

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    Understood.


    fwiw, I voted for Wright in the PSD vote

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    NL
    MVP= Posey- His team went to the playoffs, and if Kemp didn't win the MVP last year, then Braun shouldn't win it this year.
    CY= Kershaw- Best pitcher in NL period.
    ROY= Miley- Harper is overrated for now.

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    MVP= Cabrera- He won the triple crown, and he's due.
    CY= Verlander- Best pitcher in AL period.
    ROY= Trout- Duh!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krush View Post
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    MVP= Posey- His team went to the playoffs, and if Kemp didn't win the MVP last year, then Braun shouldn't win it this year.
    CY= Kershaw- Best pitcher in NL period.
    ROY= Miley- Harper is overrated for now.

    AL
    MVP= Cabrera- He won the triple crown, and he's due.
    CY= Verlander- Best pitcher in AL period.
    ROY= Trout- Duh!
    And the Triple Crown argument begins again

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    The 'he's due' part also makes me scratch my head


    It's a single season award, not a career achievement award

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    Kershaw is the best pitcher in the MLB overall, so it will be a travesty if he doesn't win the NL Cy Young. I would be less mad if Dickey won over Kershaw instead of Gio winning over him, though. Gio isn't even the best pitcher on his team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YouCan'tBeatLA View Post
    Kershaw is the best pitcher in the MLB overall, so it will be a travesty if he doesn't win the NL Cy Young. I would be less mad if Dickey won over Kershaw instead of Gio winning over him, though. Gio isn't even the best pitcher on his team.
    Agreed on all fronts.. But I honestly believe Dickey will win the Cy Young, if Gio wins ***** gonna get real
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    Quote Originally Posted by LASportsFan1996 View Post
    Agreed on all fronts.. But I honestly believe Dickey will win the Cy Young, if Gio wins ***** gonna get real
    I'm fairly certain Kershaw will actually win based on the voters history.


    I think he is more inclined to win then Dickey.


    Dickey certainly COULD, but I don't think he will, and Gio def won't win it.

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    Back to back Cy Young's for Kershaw?!

    This guy is only 24 and off to an amazing start and a couple years away from his "prime"
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    PSD is gonna explode if Cabrera wins the MVP.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Leandres_sf View Post
    PSD is gonna explode if Cabrera wins the MVP.
    When

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krush View Post
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    MVP= Posey- His team went to the playoffs, and if Kemp didn't win the MVP last year, then Braun shouldn't win it this year.
    CY= Kershaw- Best pitcher in NL period.
    ROY= Miley- Harper is overrated for now.

    AL
    MVP= Cabrera- He won the triple crown, and he's due.
    CY= Verlander- Best pitcher in AL period.
    ROY= Trout- Duh!
    What does that even mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krush View Post
    NL
    MVP= Posey- His team went to the playoffs, and if Kemp didn't win the MVP last year, then Braun shouldn't win it this year.
    CY= Kershaw- Best pitcher in NL period.
    ROY= Miley- Harper is overrated for now.

    AL
    MVP= Cabrera- He won the triple crown, and he's due.
    CY= Verlander- Best pitcher in AL period.
    ROY= Trout- Duh!
    Harper still deserves it. I think Miley was on his way to winning it before September started. Then he pitched poorly and Harper exploded. In my mind I think that's what swings the vote in Harper's favor.

    As for Cabrera, just because he won the Triple Crown that doesn't mean he's the Most Valuable Player. Trout is easily more valuable than him. Just because someone's "due" doesn't mean they should get it either. Trout was more valuable. Trout's valuable in his hitting, defense, and base running. Cabrera is valuable in just his hitting.
    Last edited by SFrush90; 11-09-2012 at 11:42 AM.


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    Not trying to get into a heated argument but, what are the statistical chances of a person winning the triple crown?
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    I'm not sure.


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