
Originally Posted by
jetsfansince'67
Sorry, another long one, put the points are simple and quick!
We are all spilling our hearts out - in good form, I should add - about why, in the 4th year of this regime, our Jets are 3-5, and in danger (I'm not saying it's a done deal - not by a long shot - there are 8 more games!) of having an awful season, which I would define as worse than 8-8 (and 8-8, two years in a row is nothing to cheer for, really).
The 1st thing I want to say is - I can "hear" and feel how much we all care about our Jets, and I love you all for it!
2nd thing - Nobody is wrong in this discussion! The hard part is, as thinking/feeling beings - we want to be able to "put our finger on THE problem," wrap it all up in a bundle, so that we can make sense of it, and move forward.
The problem is - this probably can only be done in "tic tac toe," as most things - particularly what's up with our Jets - is too complicated to do that.
I think both major lines of thinking are correct: Argument 1) It's not all Sanchez's fault as this years team is the weakest, talent wise, on offense (not so great defensively either, yet) than any team in REX/Sanchez era. Poor WRs, 1 TE that missed most of the 1st half of the season, RBs that scare NO ONE, and an O-line that has not replaced Faneca and Woody. Add to this that TREX (Wood-dick) STUCK IT TO SANCHEZ this year in so many ways, I can't even believe it: A) make Sanchez go kiss and make up with Holmes - really? (who was the friggin' arsehole); B) trade for Tebow (no matter how strong Sanchez is, he has been bashed, and "put in his place" by REX, not supported like a Franchise QB should, and then sabotaged with the TRADE FOR TEBOW - it's not like he was just out there without a team - we spent a 4th and a 6th to trade for him).
Argument 2) A great QB can over come many obstacles, and can raise the level of the talent of the players around him, and finds ways to win. Yes, the GREAT QBs can do this - but most of them have had a heck of a lot of help behind them. It is not fair to compare Sanchez to Andrew Luck, RGIII, Stafford, Dalton, M. Ryan - even Flacco - because: A) theses guys all started 3-4 years in college, and have about the same amount of experience as Sanchez - they just got it in college; B) they were heralded as the guy that was going to lead their franchise to greatness - and had teams built around them - and they were used to being "the man." There was a lot of skepticism about Sanchez going pro (although it was the absolute right financial move for Mark - he never has to worry about money again - even if he never plays after next year).
AND - lets not take ANYTHING away from how Mark Sanchez played in the playoffs!!!!!
2009: Bengals - 12/15, 182 yards, 1TD, 0 INT - GREAT!
Chargers - 12/23, 100 yards, 1TD, 1 INT - not so great
Colts - 18/31, 302 yards, 2 TDs, 1 INT - pretty good
2010:
Colts - 18/31, 189 yards, 0 TD, 1 INT - not so great - BUT LEAD THE WINNING DRIVE - that's a win
Patriots - 16/25, 194 yards, 3 TDs, 0 INTs - GREAT GREAT GREAT
Steelers - 20/33, 233 yards, 2 TDs, 0 INTs - GREAT GREAT GREAT
So what is it? It is that Sanchez is a gifted athlete, but not a GREAT QB that has never been supported correctly, has had the talent stripped away, and has been actively sabotaged by the current regime, and has turned into a somewhat mentally brittle QB without the confidence to allow him to be at his best, let it all hang out - trust what he sees, make the right throws.
A GREAT QB just knows that he's the man. The harder it gets, the more he knows that he has to elevate his game to carry those around him.
What will (probably) happen. Sanchez deserves the rest of this season to show what he's got, and because of his new contract - UNLESS something I'm not seeing happens - Sanchez will be given every chance to be the starting QB for our Jets next year - UNLESS, somehow someone beats him out in training camp for the starting job - someone that came cheap, OR - we trade, perhaps the greatest CB of all time Darrelle Revis - and can get a great young QB - but this CAN'T happen in time for this year's draft - and I don't think there are any sure fire GREAT QBs in the draft next year - so: I think the best thing to do is cut all the dead weight we can, hope that Revis shows he's back to greatness before next year's trading deadline (or just keep him, but it's going to cost a huge amount of money).
Draft the best players available - making sure that we get a solid RB, and a great receiver/TE, and pass rusher. Marshall our resources, and wait for the next opportunity to grab the next GREAT QB - and go from there.
Many may argue this, but IMHO - there is NO WAY that Revis can be THE GREATEST JET EVER - unless he is the reason we win a SB, and I'm sad to say that a CB never did this.
I know I'm not speaking for anyone - I'm just saying that I believe almost everyone here is making a good point, and it's coming from the right place (anyone that's bitter and bashing should take a look at that). The thing is - there are a whole lot of reasons why things are as they are. I just hope that we can do some sort of miracle turn around, and pump Sanchez full of confidence (from good things happening - even if they're lucky, and go on a run), and then you never know where we might end up!
GO JETS!!!