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    Keith Smart's Substitutions/Rotations

    Fellow Kings fans, how do you feel Keith Smart has handled his substitutions so far this season?



    Honestly I don't understand how a player can get in rhythm with the sporadic playing time they receive. I understand tweeking the roster & experimenting but there doesn't seem to be any consistent playing time for anybody outside of Thornton, Evans & Boogie.
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    The inconsistent lineup is due to the inconsistent play at PG between Thomas and Brooks... The SF rotation is going to be inconsistent due to Johnson being one dimensional. Our front-court will remain a 4 man rotation...

    Lineups are going to be inconsistent when you don't have a starting PG or SF on the roster!

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    Said it many times before, in my opinion they are terrible. It's like he's running a CYO program out there. The inconsistency is absurd out there. But that's what happens you have a bad coach.
    Why in the world is it so important to get the calls right ?
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    They're strange at times, but still better than Westphal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iMac View Post
    The inconsistent lineup is due to the inconsistent play at PG between Thomas and Brooks... The SF rotation is going to be inconsistent due to Johnson being one dimensional. Our front-court will remain a 4 man rotation...

    Lineups are going to be inconsistent when you don't have a starting PG or SF on the roster!
    I understand what your saying but take last night for example; Thomas starts off with 10 points in the 1st quarter & after that we don't see him until the 3rd quarter. By then any rhythm or feel for the game is cooled off & now he had to get back in the groove all over again.
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    Said it many times before, in my opinion they are terrible. It's like he's running a CYO program out there. The inconsistency is absurd out there. But that's what happens you have a bad coach.
    CYO = Youth Organization?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent008 View Post
    They're strange at times, but still better than Westphal.
    I'd take Chuck after a 3-day bender instead of Westphal
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    Quote Originally Posted by Infamous916 View Post
    I understand what your saying but take last night for example; Thomas starts off with 10 points in the 1st quarter & after that we don't see him until the 3rd quarter. By then any rhythm or feel for the game is cooled off & now he had to get back in the groove all over again.

    CYO = Youth Organization?


    Yes. Pretty much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Infamous916 View Post
    I understand what your saying but take last night for example; Thomas starts off with 10 points in the 1st quarter & after that we don't see him until the 3rd quarter. By then any rhythm or feel for the game is cooled off & now he had to get back in the groove all over again.
    Yeah, but that's the problem. There's not consistency in their play by game! Thomas nor Brooks have captured the bulk of the minutes. They haven't done enough to distance themselves in that position battle.

    Both players aren't distributes and look to get their shots off more than orchestrate... So when their shot goes broke they set someone up in iso rather than promote ball movement!

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    Matchups is also going to play a factor in who gets playing time at the end.

    I have no problem with the inconsistency of who gets playing time at the end, that happens often when you have players of similar value. The hot player and matchups are a deciding factor on who plays down the stretch.

    Thomas did start off hot in the scoring column, but we were not winning in that span.
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    I did not see last night game; but by the #s aaron brroks 1/5 3fg? Were they bad shoots, or did he just miss them?
    I only have a problem with jj and tyreke on the floor at the same time.
    Again I did not see last night's game. But our bench is what I thought it was, better then just about any other team's in the nba. I really like brooks, thornton,t rob, and hayes off the bench pretty much all at the same time. They have toasted the other teams. We might just be one player at the 3 away from a great team. (Not good, great). I don't understand the 4th quarters though. Can't wait to hear back from the Kings fans, thanks!

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    I dont rememeber all of Aaron Brooks 3 point shots but 1 of them came when the clock was about to expire and it was not a high percentage shot. It was either shoot or take a 24 second violation.

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    Keith Smart's Substitutions/Rotations

    I went to the last two games and both games, my buddy and I both noticed they were going really small with brooks, jimmer, Thornton, Johnson, Hayes. It went alright in the first half of the first game at home. Then they did it again in the 2nd quarter of last nights game. It was working great. jimmer had 5, looked confident; brooks had moments where he thought he was 2009 Aaron brooks taking over; Thornton didn't shoot a lot but got jimmer and brooks open. I liked that. They did it again in the second half but I'm curious to see if it's a group smart likes

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    Quote Originally Posted by iMac View Post
    Yeah, but that's the problem. There's not consistency in their play by game! Thomas nor Brooks have captured the bulk of the minutes. They haven't done enough to distance themselves in that position battle.

    Both players aren't distributes and look to get their shots off more than orchestrate... So when their shot goes broke they set someone up in iso rather than promote ball movement!
    If they aren't playing consistent, why not ride the hot hand? He did it last night with Jimmer & I had no problem with it.

    It's when a guy seems to be playing well & Smart takes him out for 10-15 minutes at a time. That is the part I can't wrap my brain around.
    Quote Originally Posted by Plague View Post
    Matchups is also going to play a factor in who gets playing time at the end.

    I have no problem with the inconsistency of who gets playing time at the end, that happens often when you have players of similar value. The hot player and matchups are a deciding factor on who plays down the stretch.

    Thomas did start off hot in the scoring column, but we were not winning in that span.
    Been trying to convince myself that, Plague. But no matter what I can't shake this feeling Keith Smart has no clue what he's doing.

    Also, I'm with you on riding the hot hand or exploiting a mismatch & if that means less time for some guys so be it. All I want to see is competitive basketball & a team who doesn't look like the Freshman HS team.

    We may not of been winning but IT was the only one doing anything for the first 8 minutes.
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    I did not see last night game; but by the #s aaron brroks 1/5 3fg? Were they bad shoots, or did he just miss them?
    I only have a problem with jj and tyreke on the floor at the same time.
    Again I did not see last night's game. But our bench is what I thought it was, better then just about any other team's in the nba. I really like brooks, thornton,t rob, and hayes off the bench pretty much all at the same time. They have toasted the other teams. We might just be one player at the 3 away from a great team. (Not good, great). I don't understand the 4th quarters though. Can't wait to hear back from the Kings fans, thanks!
    From the 4-5 games I've seen of Brooks, he loves chucking up shots but last night wasn't too bad. That basket he made under the hoop was ridiculous, he just threw it up & I couldn't believe he made such a wild shot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Infamous916 View Post
    If they aren't playing consistent, why not ride the hot hand? He did it last night with Jimmer & I had no problem with it.

    It's when a guy seems to be playing well & Smart takes him out for 10-15 minutes at a time. That is the part I can't wrap my brain around.

    Been trying to convince myself that, Plague. But no matter what I can't shake this feeling Keith Smart has no clue what he's doing.

    Also, I'm with you on riding the hot hand or exploiting a mismatch & if that means less time for some guys so be it. All I want to see is competitive basketball & a team who doesn't look like the Freshman HS team.

    We may not of been winning but IT was the only one doing anything for the first 8 minutes.

    From the 4-5 games I've seen of Brooks, he loves chucking up shots but last night wasn't too bad. That basket he made under the hoop was ridiculous, he just threw it up & I couldn't believe he made such a wild shot.
    Lets give it a little time, its the start of the season and teams are still working out their rotations, with the new players the Kings more than other teams.

    Personally I really hate our starting lineup, its not Isiah that I dislike, what I dislike is that we have both a SG and a SF who cannot create space on the floor. Has that starting lineup created a positive score yet? It seems like whenever they are in the lineup as a group we score less points than the other team. To make matters worst Thomas style does not fit with those players. I will stand by my opinion on Thomas, on offense he is at his best playing the role of SG not PG. Thomas is a excellent spot up shooter, you get a player who can create and pass to Thomas when he is open near the 3 point line and he will score 3 pointers at a high percentage.

    The biggest Keith Smart decision that baffled me was a couple of games ago when with about 3 minutes left in the game (and us needing points) and the other team at the free throw line he brought James Johnson in the game. That was the time to bring in a offensive player not a defensive player.

    One point. I like Smart 100x better than PW. I am going to give Keith Smart the greater part of a season before I make a decision whether I like him or not. Right now my feeling is Keith Smart is probably better than the guy we would hire if we fired Keith Smart.

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    I liked seeing Jimmer, Thornton, and Tyreke on the court together with Tyreke playing point on offense and SF on defense

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