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    Mets back in the Gulf Coast league

    Mets #Mets to again field Gulf Coast League team...The rookie-level club will be based at the organization's minor league complex in PSL, FL.


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    AdamRubinESPN The Mets will restore their Gulf Coast League team for 2013. They're back up to 9 minor league teams. Will not be subtracting one elsewhere.

    That answer my next question.

    But was the move originally done to save 1 million or did they come to the realization that some prospects aren't ready for the jump to the Appalachian league.


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    I'd say it was a combination of both to bring the GCL team back, but it was definitely a cost saving measure last year.

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    Mets back in the Gulf Coast league

    It was a ****** decision period, the fact that they are bringing it back reassures me that I was right about it a year ago.

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    Great news. Glad they made the right decision.

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    From ESPN Mets Blog:

    The return gives the Mets nine minor league affiliates -- matching the Mariners and Rays for the most in the majors. According to the Mets, 11 organizations have eight affiliates, while 16 have seven affiliates.

    The reintroduction of the GCL team, which primarly is for newly signed players, is necessary because the new collective bargaining agreement results in draftees signing more quickly -- in time to participate in games within weeks of the draft in large numbers, according to the Mets.

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    What about all the people who argued that this was a wasteful expense for the team?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GottaBelieve View Post
    What about all the people who argued that this was a wasteful expense for the team?
    I think you mean person, and that would be me.

    But in the end, they had to many prospects for just one team.


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    Quote Originally Posted by clayamtion View Post
    I think you mean person, and that would be me.

    But in the end, they had to many prospects for just one team.
    You didn't say that before though. We said that the teams were too stacked and players could not get adequate playing for proper development.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YoungStuna28 View Post
    You didn't say that before though. We said that the teams were too stacked and players could not get adequate playing for proper development.
    I know I didn't, and never said I did.


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    Quote Originally Posted by clayamtion View Post
    I know I didn't, and never said I did.
    I know you didn't, and I didn't say you did. But you said it now because the Mets decided it was right.

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    AdamRubinESPN The Mets said the reintroduction of the Gulf Coast League team was necessary because the new CBA means draftees are signing more quickly.

    And there is the answer I seek.


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    Mets back in the Gulf Coast league

    I mention numerous reasons as to why this was a bad idea and there was one certain poster that was adamant that Sandy was doing this because the Mets would draft less HS guys and blah blah blah blah.

    Anyways, just glad that they righted a wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sick Of It All View Post
    I mention numerous reasons as to why this was a bad idea and there was one certain poster that was adamant that Sandy was doing this because the Mets would draft less HS guys and blah blah blah blah.

    Anyways, just glad that they righted a wrong.
    If you mean me, I believe you are incorrect. I never stated fewer would be drafted because that was never my point.

    My point was that fewer would sign. Mets signed 7 of 21 HS players drafted in 2012 (33%). In 2011 they signed 11 of 20 HS draftees (+50%). I don't know what the overall numbers for MLB are when comparing 2012 to 2011 per the percentage of HS draftees that signed. Feel free to look those up.

    Also, my point had nothing to do with Sandy Alderson. It was based on allotting teams a fixed sum of bonus monies.

    My other point was that a GCL team wasn't a necessity in player development. Many teams have "holes" in their systems. A number of teams do not have a senior short season affiliate, a number do not have an upper level rookie league team, etc. Most systems ask players in their first three seasons to make a larger jump at some point.

    I also never said eliminating the GCL team was the right move, only that ppl were overreacting to the elimination of the team. And they were.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sick Of It All View Post
    I mention numerous reasons as to why this was a bad idea and there was one certain poster that was adamant that Sandy was doing this because the Mets would draft less HS guys and blah blah blah blah.

    Anyways, just glad that they righted a wrong.
    What may have been right for last year could be wrong for this year. Last year they were in dire straits financially, with the Madoff thing unsettled and minority interests unsold. So, based on the number of new signees they anticipated, they figured the 2 short season teams would suffice.

    This year, they are in better financial shape, and more importantly, the new CBA changed the lay of the land. There will be a larger and earlier influx of new talent.

    So, it's possible that both decisions were right. In essence, they righted a right.
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