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    Sabean gives updates on Pence, Pagan, Scutaro, Affeldt, and Wilson..

    And Pence is going to comeback as well.. ran out of room in the thread title to include that...

    INDIAN WELLS, Calif. -- San Francisco Giants general manager Brian Sabean can guarantee that outfielder Hunter Pence will be back with the team in 2013. He is not close to ready to make the same assurances with closer Brian Wilson.

    Sabean said Wednesday the Giants plan to tender a contract to Pence, even though the right fielder could be in line to make $13 million-plus in salary arbitration next season. Some media outlets have suggested the combination of Pence's big salary and his late-season struggles at the plate might prompt the Giants to consider cutting ties with the player and moving in a different direction with their outfield.

    "Pence is going to be coming back," Sabean said at the general managers' meetings. "We think there are some things he can do to fix what went wrong this year. We like the player. We made a big trade to get him, and he's going to be a Giant next year."

    The Giants acquired Pence, 29, in a July deadline deal with Philadelphia. Pence hit .219 with a .671 OPS for San Francisco in the final two months, and was even worse during the postseason, hitting .210 with 17 strikeouts in 62 at-bats.

    But he drove in 45 runs in 59 regular-season games with the Giants, and he helped inspire the team with his emotional pregame pep talks during the playoffs and World Series.

    "We never would have traded for a guy that we remotely thought we would be non-tendering," Sabean said. "So any speculation about that doesn't make any sense. By that point in the season, you pretty much know where a guy is going in terms of the arbitration clock and the money."

    The outlook isn't nearly as clear for Wilson, who underwent his second career Tommy John surgery in April. Santiago Casilla and Sergio Romo combined for 39 saves in Wilson's absence, and the San Francisco bullpen was superb against Cincinnati, St. Louis and Detroit in the postseason.

    Since Wilson probably won't be ready to pitch until the middle of next season, the Giants don't appear to be in position to commit to him by the Nov. 30 tender date. That means he is likely to hit the open market as a free agent.

    "This was his second (Tommy John), and if anyone could defy the odds, it would be him," Sabean said. "But he's a long way from being at full strength, which means he's a long way from being cleared medically. It's wait and see. Until I get more medical information, we're not going near the subject."

    Sabean also said the Giants have been actively working to re-sign free agents Angel Pagan, Marco Scutaro and Jeremy Affeldt, pivotal players in the team's title run. While Sabean described himself as "optimistic" on signing the three, he declined to predict where the Giants' efforts will lead.
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    **** yeah, optimism!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ESaady View Post
    **** yeah, optimism!
    In the Giants forum?

    Where was this optimism in the offseason?

    Oh that's right, we needed another championship. Guess I wasn't far off at all was I. Let's see how long optimism lasts. I should screenshot the forum page because something tells me that in 5 months this place is going to be the good old Giants forum again.


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    I didn't even notice that. I just kind of skimmed the article. I just figured he'd be back at the start of the season or at least in the early part of the year. Hopefully it's just a typo or someone along the line gave him the wrong info by mistake.

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    Just edited the thread title to include everything in the article.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spliff(TONE) View Post
    Everything I had come across other than this article had stated that Wilson would be ready by Opening Day most likely. Did the "probably won't be ready to pitch until the middle of next season" line throw anyone else off?
    Threw me off for sure, I had to read it twice

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    im glad pence came back, i think he will have a good season next year

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    Quote Originally Posted by spliff(TONE) View Post
    Everything I had come across other than this article had stated that Wilson would be ready by Opening Day most likely. Did the "probably won't be ready to pitch until the middle of next season" line throw anyone else off?
    Everything I have read was saying May as a realistic possibility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spliff(TONE) View Post
    Everything I had come across other than this article had stated that Wilson would be ready by Opening Day most likely. Did the "probably won't be ready to pitch until the middle of next season" line throw anyone else off?
    Regardless of what's been said, I always thought there was a pretty good chance that Wilson wouldn't be ready Opening Day. Now, not being ready until the middle of the season, I hope they're just being dramatic.







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    "Pence is going to be coming back, [...]we made a big trade to get him"
    We basically stole him from the Phillies. Sure Tommy Joseph has potential but we're pretty good on the catcher front.

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    Quote Originally Posted by otatop View Post
    We basically stole him from the Phillies. Sure Tommy Joseph has potential but we're pretty good on the catcher front.
    I'm still not sold on that Posey guy. I played freshmen baseball, I can see he has holes in his swings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SFrush90 View Post
    I'm still not sold on that Posey guy. I played freshmen baseball, I can see he has holes in his swings.
    Definitely not an all-star catcher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by otatop View Post
    We basically stole him from the Phillies. Sure Tommy Joseph has potential but we're pretty good on the catcher front.
    Not really. I think it was a fair trade considering Pence's salary. Just cause we had an abundance of great catching talent doesn't make them expendable for lesser value.

    I loved watching Joesph, guy is projected to have more power than anyone on the team currently. Decker really got him much better defensively @ catcher too. I know it's only potential but there's less than a handful of prospects that had his kind of power for being a catcher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by giantspwn View Post
    Not really. I think it was a fair trade considering Pence's salary. Just cause we had an abundance of great catching talent doesn't make them expendable for lesser value.

    I loved watching Joesph, guy is projected to have more power than anyone on the team currently. Decker really got him much better defensively @ catcher too. I know it's only potential but there's less than a handful of prospects that had his kind of power for being a catcher.
    weird story. my buddy i was just at school with went to high school with joseph n the dude threw a no hitter last year topping out at 82. crazy ****. i got a little one generation knowingness to joseph haha i actually let me friend know he got traded for pence which is huge if ur a minor leaguer hha u think ur the **** after that

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