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    What QB Holds The Ball The Longest??

    Signature Stat Snapshot: Time To Throw
    Khaled Elsayed | 2012/11/07


    Continuous improvement.

    Itís what weíre all about at Pro Football Focus and itís why Iím happy to say weíve been working this week to add a new signature stat for our Premium Members; Quarterback Time in the Pocket.

    Itís a stat that is continuously updated as games go up and looks at a number of things. How long a quarterback has to throw, the average sack time and difference in completion percentage depending on how long they have to throw.


    The best place to start is which quarterback has the longest time to throw. Now to explain what Ďtime to throwí is, we record the time from when the ball is snapped to the point where the quarterback has either thrown a pass or can no longer throw a pass (has been sacked or scrambled past the line of scrimmage). While logic would say that Michael Vick would be the one holding onto the ball the longest, itís actually rookie Russell Wilson who leads the way in this regard with Michael Vick second (though the difference is negligible). Meanwhile nobody takes less time to throw than Tom Brady who has a marginally lower time to throw than Matt Hasselbeck. Hereís the full list.
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    1	 Russell Wilson	SEA	274	3.14
    2	 Michael Vick	PHI	366	3.12
    3	 Cam Newton	CAR	266	3.04
    4	 Robert Griffin III	WAS	309	3.01
    5	 Alex D. Smith	SF	244	2.9
    6	 Andrew Luck	IND	371	2.86
    7	 Kevin Kolb	ARZ	217	2.84
    8	 Matt Cassel	KC	260	2.82
    9	 Josh Freeman	TB	274	2.79
    10	 Christian Ponder	MIN	330	2.78
    11	 Aaron Rodgers	GB	373	2.76
    12	 Tony Romo	DAL	335	2.76
    13	 Jay Cutler	CHI	278	2.74
    14	 Matt Ryan	ATL	331	2.73
    15	 Ben Roethlisberger	PIT	316	2.73
    16	 Brandon Weeden	CLV	356	2.72
    17	 Philip Rivers	SD	285	2.72
    18	 Matthew Stafford	DET	369	2.71
    19	 Sam Bradford	SL	278	2.71
    20	 Mark Sanchez	NYJ	291	2.68
    21	 Drew Brees	NO	357	2.67
    22	 Matt Schaub	HST	260	2.67
    23	 John Skelton	ARZ	187	2.64
    24	 Joe Flacco	BLT	299	2.62
    25	 Eli Manning	NYG	331	2.59
    26	 Andy Dalton	CIN	315	2.59
    27	 Blaine Gabbert	JAX	271	2.58
    28	 Carson Palmer	OAK	347	2.57
    29	 Ryan Fitzpatrick	BUF	281	2.57
    30	 Ryan Tannehill	MIA	261	2.57
    31	 Peyton Manning	DEN	304	2.51
    32	 Matt Hasselbeck	TEN	240	2.5
    33	 Tom Brady	NE	335	2.49
    Thereí a correlation between how long a player takes to throw and how high an average time to sack they have. Wilson not only leads the league in time to throw but also in average time to sack. Thatís not going to help the Seahawks offensive line look better in much the same way as Alex Smith (second highest time to sack) and Michael Vick donít help theirs. At the other end of things nobody warrants your sympathy more than Kevin Kolb who was not helped by a pass protection unit that saw his average sack coming within 2.3 seconds of the ball being sacked. Thatís a ridiculous number that explains how helpless Kolb often was. Again hereís the full list.
    Code:
    1	 Russell Wilson	SEA	274	4.05
    2	 Alex D. Smith	SF	244	4.03
    3	 Michael Vick	PHI	366	4.02
    4	 Jay Cutler	CHI	278	4.01
    5	 Josh Freeman	TB	274	3.87
    6	 John Skelton	ARZ	187	3.85
    7	 Matt Cassel	KC	260	3.81
    8	 Joe Flacco	BLT	299	3.68
    9	 Aaron Rodgers	GB	373	3.62
    10	 Matt Schaub	HST	260	3.61
    11	 Ryan Fitzpatrick	BUF	281	3.61
    12	 Matthew Stafford	DET	369	3.57
    13	 Andrew Luck	IND	371	3.39
    14	 Mark Sanchez	NYJ	291	3.34
    15	 Cam Newton	CAR	266	3.27
    16	 Tom Brady	NE	335	3.26
    17	 Christian Ponder	MIN	330	3.22
    18	 Tony Romo	DAL	335	3.11
    19	 Eli Manning	NYG	331	3.04
    20	 Andy Dalton	CIN	315	3.02
    21	 Matt Hasselbeck	TEN	240	2.94
    22	 Robert Griffin III	WAS	309	2.85
    23	 Drew Brees	NO	357	2.85
    24	 Matt Ryan	ATL	331	2.84
    25	 Brandon Weeden	CLV	356	2.84
    26	 Carson Palmer	OAK	347	2.67
    27	 Sam Bradford	SL	278	2.66
    28	 Ben Roethlisberger	PIT	316	2.56
    29	 Blaine Gabbert	JAX	271	2.51
    30	 Peyton Manning	DEN	304	2.5
    31	 Ryan Tannehill	MIA	261	2.48
    32	 Philip Rivers	SD	285	2.43
    33	 Kevin Kolb	ARZ	217	2.28
    I'll fix the formatting in a minute.
    Quote Originally Posted by homestarunner93 View Post
    Gabbert is clearly the best QB package in this draft in my opinion.
    All in all, if the Panthers are going to select a QB, Gabbert has to be the pick.
    People take this guy seriously?

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    I am honestly stunned that Big Ben wasn't #1

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    Quote Originally Posted by carson005 View Post
    I am honestly stunned that Big Ben wasn't #1
    I thought it would be Vick easily.
    Quote Originally Posted by homestarunner93 View Post
    Gabbert is clearly the best QB package in this draft in my opinion.
    All in all, if the Panthers are going to select a QB, Gabbert has to be the pick.
    People take this guy seriously?

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    No guys!! Wilson is GOAT

    Seahawks fans..lol

    PSD's Aaron Dropson

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    Really cool stat, can't imagine how much work must have gone into compiling it.
    We're better than you
    And we know it


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    Quote Originally Posted by lolollort View Post
    No guys!! Wilson is GOAT

    Seahawks fans..lol
    Make a small critique about him not yet being a timing passer. You will get sig quoted. Too bad this stat came out two days later.

    Sig quote is gone now......hmm.
    Quote Originally Posted by homestarunner93 View Post
    Gabbert is clearly the best QB package in this draft in my opinion.
    All in all, if the Panthers are going to select a QB, Gabbert has to be the pick.
    People take this guy seriously?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quinnsanity View Post
    Really cool stat, can't imagine how much work must have gone into compiling it.
    This is why when people rip on PFF, I get so upset. This is quality stuff. It's probably not perfectly accurate, but there is nothing else like it and it's damned interesting.

    I had to share it with you guys.
    Quote Originally Posted by homestarunner93 View Post
    Gabbert is clearly the best QB package in this draft in my opinion.
    All in all, if the Panthers are going to select a QB, Gabbert has to be the pick.
    People take this guy seriously?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lolollort View Post
    No guys!! Wilson is GOAT

    Seahawks fans..lol
    He buys himself time with his athleticism actually the Vikings missed out on like 3 sacks if that was a stationary QB plus our skill players really aren't the greatest besides Sidney Rice.

    Who really cares if he holds on to the ball for a long time though as long as he doesn't do something stupid he is just buying time for his receivers to get open.
    Last edited by NateyB24; 11-07-2012 at 06:31 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NormSizedMidget View Post
    Make a small critique about him not yet being a timing passer. You will get sig quoted. Too bad this stat came out two days later.

    Sig quote is gone now......hmm.
    People can't get over their bias opinions.
    Homerism makes them blind.

    Quote Originally Posted by NateyB24 View Post
    He buys himself time with his athleticism actually the Vikings missed out on like 3 sacks if that was a stationary QB plus our skill players really aren't the greatest besides Sidney Rice.

    Who really cares if he holds on to the ball for a long time though as long as he doesn't do something stupid he is just buying time for his receivers to get open.
    Ok.

    PSD's Aaron Dropson

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    Quote Originally Posted by NateyB24 View Post
    He buys himself time with his athleticism actually the Vikings missed out on like 3 sacks if that was a stationary QB plus our skill players really aren't the greatest besides Sidney Rice.

    Who really cares if he holds on to the ball for a long time though as long as he doesn't do something stupid he is just buying time for his receivers to get open.
    So you will defend Vick for this as well. Correct?

    Vick is just buying time for his WRs to get open right????
    Quote Originally Posted by homestarunner93 View Post
    Gabbert is clearly the best QB package in this draft in my opinion.
    All in all, if the Panthers are going to select a QB, Gabbert has to be the pick.
    People take this guy seriously?

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    Tannehill's numbers are somewhat telling. Gets rid of the ball the 4th fastest, but has the 3rd fastest sack time.

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    Norm, are you trying to point out a correlation between skin color and how long a quarterback holds on to the ball?

    FIRE ME!


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    This is one of the problems I am am having with Tice as a play caller. We are too vertical oriented; with the OL we have Jay needs to be lower on this list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Illa215 View Post
    Norm, are you trying to point out a correlation between skin color and how long a quarterback holds on to the ball?
    Lol I didn't even notice until you said that.

    Also, I said Lol because of your sig.
    Quote Originally Posted by homestarunner93 View Post
    Gabbert is clearly the best QB package in this draft in my opinion.
    All in all, if the Panthers are going to select a QB, Gabbert has to be the pick.
    People take this guy seriously?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Illa215 View Post
    Norm, are you trying to point out a correlation between skin color and how long a quarterback holds on to the ball?
    No, he was just showing that it takes some quarterbacks longer than others to figure out what to do with the ball. Stop trying to stir up controversy.

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