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  1. #61
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    As a great leader once said "Today will be a day long remembered...."

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    #Mets and Jason Bay have worked out an agreement that makes him an unconditional free agent. Bay Era in Flushing is over



    At last common sense prevails. I'm Marty Mcfly and I approve of this message.

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    Person involved in negotiation said #Mets didn't save big '13 $ releasing Bay/deferring, said more about divorce, moving on from bad deal


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    AdamRubinESPN Told Jason Bay deferral/termination gives the #Mets little more payroll flexibility--more importantly opens roster slot.


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    Bay Released

    Jason Bay is gone. Good riddance!!! He was the worse free agent bust in Mets history. By the way Mo Vaughn came in a trade and not free agency. Here's a link:

    http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/news/art...s_nym&c_id=nym

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    Great that we got rid of him right away no waiting until spring training. This is great news and this week alone has been amazing. Now if we can just terminate the Wilpons the cycle will be complete.

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    Does anyone think that they might or have already approached Santana or his Reps looking to make the same kind of arrangement? Maybe not releasing him but trying to see if he will defer some of this money this year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DisgruntledGoat View Post
    Does anyone think that they might or have already approached Santana or his Reps looking to make the same kind of arrangement? Maybe not releasing him but trying to see if he will defer some of this money this year?
    I think he still has some usefulness left in him. However, it appears his days as a #1 or even a #2 starter are behind him.

    He might be good for five or six innings, but he is no longer a "stopper".
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    Quote Originally Posted by DisgruntledGoat View Post
    Does anyone think that they might or have already approached Santana or his Reps looking to make the same kind of arrangement? Maybe not releasing him but trying to see if he will defer some of this money this year?

    I doubt it, Johan doesn't have three disgusting years against him. If we keep deferring $$$ we're going to get nowhere. It is a fools paradise.

    They're tanking next year anyway, may as well pay JS what he is owed and move on with a clear slate.

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    No way they dump Johan.


    Trade him, maybe - if he starts the season well and someone bites.

    But there's no similarity between Bay and Santana. He won't be discarded like last night's leftovers.
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    Yeah, people forget how good Santana was performing before the injuries started to pile up. Unlike Bay he can produce at a good level at times.

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    Just found out that Jason Bay did not want to come to the Mets and that he came only because they offered him big money. This she should be a lesson to all of us. NEVER SIGN A PLAYER WHO DOES NOT WANT TO PLAY ON YOUR TEAM!!!! Minaya kissed both Bay's and Perez's *****.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sick Of It All View Post
    Yeah, people forget how good Santana was performing before the injuries started to pile up. Unlike Bay he can produce at a good level at times.
    You don't know this. Johan's future as a major league pitcher is iffy. He was iffy heading into 2012. What we got from him prior to June 1 was surprising. That he broke down after the no-no was very concerning.

    We don't know what he'll be in 2013 any more than we knew what he'd be in 2012. We certainly cannot assume he'll automatically revert to what he was prior to June 1.
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    Johan didn't break down after the no-no, he broke down after his ankle got stepped on at 1st base, and then he changed his mechanics to compensate for it. That resulted in a dip in velocity and effectiveness, and then he just got hurt more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YoungStuna28 View Post
    Johan didn't break down after the no-no, he broke down after his ankle got stepped on at 1st base, and then he changed his mechanics to compensate for it. That resulted in a dip in velocity and effectiveness, and then he just got hurt more.
    Ok.

    And coming on the heels of his recovery from a very challenging surgery, you don't think this puts him at further risk?
    "Mr. Martin Tanner, Baritone, of Dayton, Ohio made his Town Hall debut last night. He came well prepared, but unfortunately his presentation was not up to contemporary professional standards. His voice lacks the range of tonal color necessary to make it consistently interesting. Full time consideration of another endeavor might be in order."

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