Jason Collins claims he is the first openly gay NBA player despite the fact we witnessed the entire league bend the Lakers over all season.
sidney moncrief is probably the best defender in nba history and he should in the hof...so yes
Last edited by rockbottom2010; 11-06-2012 at 05:06 PM.
so is MWP a guy who should be in but wont because of his past. or is he a guy who just simply shouldnt be in? .. i think hes border line.. because he was such a good defender and always went up against the best guy. ball stealer and for a couple years he was a very good offensive player as well
The thing with Mutumbo, Rodman and Ben Wallace is that aside from being perhaps the best defenders in the league at various points throughout their respective careers, they were also the best rebounders in the league at various time throughout their resepctive careers.
A guy like Shane Battier... who is perhaps underappreciated, is that he locks down players, but he doesn't provide the kind of help defence that Howard, Big Ben and Mutumbo did, and Rodman did in a different way. Nor does he provide the rebounding those guys provide.
Bruce Bowen was an amazing one-on-one defender. Should he get into the HOF? I wouldn't have a problem with it, but a lot of people would I think.
Battier I don't think has done as much as Bowen... Bowen after all won 3 or 4 rings and winning plays a big factor in getting into the HOF.... just ask Mitch Richmond, Kevin Johnon, Mark Price and Tim Hardaway, all who have had HOF careers and none of whom won much while they played... they are all waiting to get into the hall and some of them (mitch, kevin and tim at least) were amazing defenders as well as being great offensive players.... mark price I'm not sure becuase I didn't watch that many Cavs games back in the day, but he may have been good on D too.
I think the Hall should be open to more players, but others seem to think that cheapens the meaning. I think guys like Fisher and Robert Horry had very special careers worthy of note, but most people wouldn't put them in the hall because they are just role players. But I mean, the Hall puts in highschool coaches for crying out loud... and NCAA officials? For real?
I say yes. But I expect to be in the minority.
I came here to chew bubble gum and kick @$$. And I'm all out of bubble gum.Everything is a self-portrait.
If Artest and Ben Wallace don't make it, it's probably because of the Brawl.
it makes it tougher, but defensive players from winners stand a good chance.
If you want the ultimate, you've got to be willing to pay the ultimate price. It's not tragic to die doing what you love.
bill russell, mostly known for his defense... if DPOY was then, and blocks counted as stats around his time he probably would be the all time leader and probably would of had 9 DPOY awards
rodman in also
No mention of Bruce "all mighty" Bowen
Mutombo and Wallace definitely should imo.
Sio Moore and David Bass fishin' for sacks in the Silver and Black
Ben and Mutumbo are HoF to me.
so, what about marc eaton and manute bol?
blocks blocks,more blocs and then again more blocks again.
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