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    im a big fan of McCarron except his awful tattoo. Seems like an all around winner and seems like he would be a suitable replacement for Brady if i di say so myself

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    McCarron is no more than a Ken Dorsey type in my opinion. He is pretty accurate, but he has limited arm-strength and the supreme talent around him hides his flaws.
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    We can take his GF though

    Also the NFL RD mock draft game is about to start and I have us participating as a forum. We can discuss stuff in here if you guys want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B'sCeltsPatsSox View Post
    We can take his GF though

    Also the NFL RD mock draft game is about to start and I have us participating as a forum. We can discuss stuff in here if you guys want.
    I think ManRam was interested in that.

    AJ McCarron seems more like an Alex Smith game manager type that can make a play every now and then. The dude has some nice talent around him. You throw him on a team like the Jags and you find out the truth pretty quickly.

    Also posted this in the News thread:
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    DL Armond Armstead, 6-5 298 lbs came by for a work out. No PS signing as of yet.
    We were interested in him prior to the draft apparently. Played for USC for 3 seasons, had a heart attack apparently due to being treated with Toradol and sued them. Undrafted, went to the CFL and became an All-Star before leaving to pursue NFL opportunities. At 22, he could be Wilfork's protege if we sign him. He'll need to put on some more muscle as 298 seems a bit light, but isn't that how a lot of players come into the league? They work their body into NFL size and shape? Jeff Demps comes to mind when I think of it.

    http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowbo...practice-squad
    Andre Holmes signed to PS. 6-4 WR who lost the 3rd WR spot in Dallas to Ogletree this year.

    Who knows? If we can hold onto these guys and properly develop them..
    Most of us would agree we've needed another DT prospect for Vince to mentor, and a tall WR for deeper balls. Wouldn't hurt to see what they can do. Low risk, high upside IMO.
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    i can see why you compare Smith and McCarron but i think McCarron has a better deep ball and he probably wouldnt go to someone like the Jags i think he would go late first round in the 20-30 range. I also like the workout for armstead and signing holmes. Armstead made CFL all stars and lead his team in sacks which is a very good thing and hes only 22 id definitely give him a chance. a year of pro football and it wouldnt cost a draft pick is very good for me

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    Using the Jags as an example. Wasn't trying to say they will draft him.
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    I don't think Armon Armstead would be an exact successor to Wilfork. He led the CFL in sacks and he's a leaner, taller defensive tackle. I think he would be a compliment to Wolfork, not a replacement. A guy that can help push the pocket inside, because our DTs other than VW don't do that consistently enough.

    We reportedly had interest in him leading up to the draft last year. That's a good sign in terms of us actually signing him. He has potential to really help out. The book on him was boom or bust in part due to effort and his production in the CFL is a good sign for him moving forward coming to the NFL. It would seem to indicate that he's taking the game more seriously now.

    If we signed him, it would free up another pick because with the need we have and what I think is a deep DT class, I would expect the spot to be addressed with a high pick, unless we can get a guy like him (or my dream to sign Randy Starks away from MIA, but that would probably be too expensive with so many of our young players due for extensions in a couple years).

    Sign Armstead and draft a pass rush specialist in round 1 or 2 (Alex Okafor in round 1 please ray and I think we could be looking at a much improved pass rush that could be up there with the best front 7s of the NFL.


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    Right, I didn't mean successor, but a trio of Wilfork, Love and Armstead would be nice. He can come in with energy and give one of the starters some rest to keep em fresh. It would be great to have one of the classiest players in Wilfork as your mentor. Great way to learn the Patriot Way.

    When it comes to the draft, I'm not sure I want to draft a DE. I mean, we have Scott, Francis, Cunningham, Bequette and Nink(who seems more like solid depth though). I'd rather give those guys a year to develop and see if any of them can grasp hold of the starting role.

    If we do sign Armstead after the playoffs and don't draft a DL, then I'd like for us to draft:
    -Olineman. C, G, T, whatever Dante wants for depth
    -WR, big and physical. Unless we are in love with Andre Holmes and have big plans for him
    -SS. FS seems to be set with McCourty and Wilson right? Gregory stays and Chung gets the boot.
    -CB. A lot depends on whether we keep Talib or not. Talib+ Dennard is a good pair, but I would like to shove Arrington to the bench or cut him by drafting another CB. This will also be an important year for Ras-I if he can stay healthy(1st pick of the 2nd round smh)
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    i do think, given the position the pats will be drafting in,it might just be the non-sexy type pick of o-lineman and i would be fine with that.

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    Hopefully Armstead's heart condition is no longer an issue. I would love to have him in NE if those issues are behind him. He comes from a great family, and is the type of player that would buy-in to the Patriot way.
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    So... are we discussing the PSD wide draft in here? if so what position are we looking for, or are we possibly trading picks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by a4anthony View Post
    So... are we discussing the PSD wide draft in here? if so what position are we looking for, or are we possibly trading picks?
    Top priorities:

    *Impact DT/NT 1st pick or a project lower pick or FA. Liable to have to move up as DT/NT scouting/results is quite accurate and teams are always hunting a thin pool if a special player is there.

    * If Vollmer leaves, an OT with a bullet (Cannon doesn't appear up for it) - probably a pick, FA would likely be a retread.

    Other:

    * If Talib leaves, draft a CB/sign FA, two perhaps if they can't count on Dowling.
    * If Welker leaves, another slot - a high buck FA? If Edelman leaves, need a back-up.
    * coverage LB - probably a mid/low pick or FA.
    * big WR? - liable to be a FA.
    * S to replace Chung? Doubt BB invests a big pick, maybe a FA or UDFA, no more in the box only S's thanks, need a guy with coverage skills that isn't hurt all the time.


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    ^ Since we're playing BAL and you mentioned FA WRs, do you think Boldin could be a possibility if he's a cap casualty in the offseason? I remember us having interest in him when he got traded to BAL originally.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bagwell368 View Post
    Top priorities:

    *Impact DT/NT 1st pick or a project lower pick or FA. Liable to have to move up as DT/NT scouting/results is quite accurate and teams are always hunting a thin pool if a special player is there.

    * If Vollmer leaves, an OT with a bullet (Cannon doesn't appear up for it) - probably a pick, FA would likely be a retread.

    Other:

    * If Talib leaves, draft a CB/sign FA, two perhaps if they can't count on Dowling.
    * If Welker leaves, another slot - a high buck FA? If Edelman leaves, need a back-up.
    * coverage LB - probably a mid/low pick or FA.
    * big WR? - liable to be a FA.
    * S to replace Chung? Doubt BB invests a big pick, maybe a FA or UDFA, no more in the box only S's thanks, need a guy with coverage skills that isn't hurt all the time.
    Speaking of coverage LB, where do you guys think we would find one and what would he cost? Do you think Hightower's role can be... molded to covering?

    But yeah, our entire draft is based on who leaves and who stays.
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