my statement:He also displayed in the playoffs that his regular season numbers and role were both a bit inflated.
your statement:one other thing to point out about this, is that the sixers weren't playing against teams with good defenses in the playoffs last year. they weren't playing against teams with top 10 defenses in the playoffs last year. they were playing against the 2 best defenses in the NBA in the playoffs last season.
if that's the standard you're using to judge whether a player is overrated, there are going to be a lot of players you think are overrated.
my statement:So jrues improvement in post season should be weighted more heavily? Just curious.
your statement:more heavily than what?
he had 14 points, 6 rebounds, and 11 assists in the season opener, and with lou and iggy gone, he has full run of the offense.
so, yeah, i'd expect quite a bit of improvement this year. i don't know that that has anything to do with 13 games from last postseason, though.
my statement:Jrues number in the playoff were much better than the regular season. He played against the two best defenses. So I'm asking does he get a bonus for that since you were giving Lou a pass for wilting against same defenses?
when i think of projections, i think more in terms of range of outcomes. and when that's the basis for your expectations, what matters isn't so much the range of outcomes, which for the most part remains stagnant from year to year, what matters is the change in the likelihood of outcomes.
when you look at that, then no, jrue playing well in the playoffs last year does not significantly move the needle in any way.my first post addressed the context of your first post. lou's performance lagged in the playoffs last year because he was playing against the best defenses in the league.Well why did you bother mentioning that those were the two best defenses in the nba? That's odd, I mean if it doesn't mean anything and all.
Because you were trying to make the point that you can't judge Lou on those games. They'd make a lot of players look bad. That standard is too high.
Am I right?
So I took the converse. Well what if a player performs better on the bigger stage against strong defenses. What does that say about said player? Your response is "nothing".
So lets go back around to why did you even bring it up?
now, i'm still not quite clear on what you're referring to in your second and third posts -- "weighted more heavily" and "does [jrue] get a bonus" lack a clarity of context because there's no direct object. "weighted more heavily" than what? "does jrue get a bouns" over what? -- so what i addressed in my third post was whether jrue's performance in the playoffs had any predictive value.
in both cases, for lou and for jrue, i would say that there's little, if any, predictive value to be taken from their performances last postseason.
if there's an inconsistency there, it's because the topics i addressed were not consistent.
i'm gonna leave this there. although, i will say that this:
seems worth highlighting because, while it applies to your sentiments regarding lou williams, it also applies to alot of people's sentiments regarding thad young and spencer hawes.if that's the standard you're using to judge whether a player is overrated, there are going to be a lot of players you think are overrated
and if you want to ask what those three have in common, it would be that they were the sixers three best offensive players last year.
and if you want to ask which 3 players would be most likely to struggle against the 2 best defensive teams in the NBA, again...