I have a hard time believing Curry better at getting a high percentage shot in crunch time than Jrue. I've seen Jrue do it...in the past since that is what you are focused on....at a level that Curry is not likely capable of. I've seen Jrue also defend at a level higher than Curry....in the past.
Dallas in the early 2000s and phoenix thereafter..... Same with golden state to a much lesser extent.
If u cant defend u get exposed in the playoffs every time.... Cause when u get into the 2nd and 3rd rd every team has more than solid offenses (few exceptions ie. sixers last year) so the best defenses learn to expose the teams that cant defend.
But u cant skate through the playoffs with a mediocre defense or offense....
How about this.... Two way basketball and elite scorers win championships?
I posted something about 3 pages ago you didn't attempt to argue that.
If Jrue was able to produce on the same level of Curry you'd be ranting, raving and carrying on about it. He hasn't so instead you choose to address TWO parts of their game. Newsflash because being more physical, bigger, stronger and longer doesn't make you a better player in the post season it never has and it never will this is not arm wrestling this is NBA basketball. Want to know how you become a better player? You outproduce the ones you're being compared to. Until Jrue does that he doesn't surpass the Steph Curry.
Melo is a better late game iso scorer than LeBron James. Do you take Melo over LeBron for it despite everything LeBron does better?
SL gave you a recent eg I'll go back to our last year in the finals. We had the 5th best defense in the entire league the Lakers had the 21st. We had the 13th best offense in the entire league the Lakers had the 2nd. Guess what that Lakers team did something no other team in the history of the league has ever done to this day. They won every single game on their way to the finals and losing one game all post season. That team is regarded by many as the most dominant post season team ever. They were way below average defensively. Even in the post season.
You can throw any example you want of dominant defensive (04 Pistons, KG's Celts, Duncan's Spurs etc) championship teams but fact of the matter is all of those defensive teams could score and NONE of them were ranked in the bottom 3rd of the league offensively.
As I said before Great Teams win Championships and solid defense is one of the many characteristics of a great team. You saying I was wrong is basically showing your ignorance to the truth.
More of a misunderstanding than ignorance....
Jrue is a very good offensive player, a very good defensive player. So that makes him better than a guy that's also very good on offense but bad on defense. Those guys aren't that much better than jrue on offense but he's way better on defense.
Pay attention. You might learn something.
I dont even wanna compare holiday to curry, one is a pg and the other is a 2.
One is a floor leader and the other is a scorer.....
Swashcuff. Feel free to disagree. But I'd appreciate if you stop assuming you know why I'm coming up with my opinions on Jrue vs. Curry/Lawson. It's a bit insulting. It is possible that some people can watch basketball and be ahead of the curve before the stats arrive. While i watch Jrue more than those guys, it's not like I've never seen them play. We disagree.
I feel the same way.
I think jrue is better. Right now. Today. It comes from watching him play. When he started I saw he was very methodical and deliberate with the way he went to the basket. He was training himself to make his takes automatic and eventually fluid. That's where he currently is. And there are no holes in his game. You keep wanting to make it about provable stats. That's not how the game works otherwise harden never gets 80 mil. It's about being able to evaluate and project a player based on his tools, work ethic, attitude and demeanor. Curry and Lawson are almost finish finished products. They aren't getting any better. They were jusornv easy nba ready when they were drafted. And defense keeps getting brushed aside as if its some fringe skillsets. It's HALF the game.
I've paid attention to all the points
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Pay attention. You might learn something.