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    Nah. Our kind of OLB can easily be found later. That's how it was with KJ, and he turned out great. Address the DLine in the first IMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by House View Post
    Exactly. his lack of elite speed would scare me at the outside linebacker position. In the BCS title game, he showed his inability to make tackles and his coverage range was picked apart
    If you select Te'o, you would have to put him at strong side linebacker. I think he would be an asset against the run and he is good in zone. You are right, though, I would not trust him in man coverage against a slot receiver or quick RB. Te'o is a good MLB prospect but he is questionable at the two OLB positions.
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    KJ and Hawthorne run a late 4.7x.

    IDK I could see Manti being solid against TE's, great in zone, and one of the best we could get vs. the run.

    He would be a clear upgrade over KJ.

    What round would you take him in.

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    Word on the street is we are going to potentially receive 2 comp picks. Both of them are more than likely going to be 7th rd picks.
    http://12thmanrising.com/2013/01/30/...or-2013-draft/

    I can see us packaging some picks and moving around as we can't trade the comps and don't see us drafting 12 players
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    Te'o would not play OLB. Can Wagner play OLB? Cause if he can then that could be smart pickup.

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    Here is my latest mock... Bomb away if you must!

    1. Margus Hunt (DL, SMU): “The Eastern Block” brings freakish size (6’8”/282lbs), versatility and extremely long arms. He can lineup anywhere on the DL and is a FG blocking machine. A down side is he is already 26 y/o, but he has only played football for a total of 3 yrs. Quinn will transcend this guy!

    2. Menelik Watson (OT, FSU): Originally a basketball player, he turned to football. He played 8 games in ’11, transferred to FSU and started all 12 games in ’12. Had a great showing at the Shrine Game and is highly regarded for having a great work ethic, learning aptitude and great athleticism.

    3. Jamie Collins (LB, Southern Miss): He’s a size/speed combo guy. Very good size (6’3”/242lbs) and runs in the 4.65 range. Very good tackling/coverage skills, but he will need to refine his technique a bit. He could be good depth and aim to challenge M. Smith to start.

    4. Michael Buchanan (DE, Illinois): At 6’4”/255lbs, he has played both the “Bandit” and “Leo” DE positions in ’12. He will provide depth and experience at the “Leo” position and can replace Clemons long term if Irvin proves to be a pass rush specialist.

    5. Brandon Kaufman (WR, Eastern Washington): He’s got very good size (6’4”/215lbs), hands and body control. He was very productive in EWU’s spread offense and the biggest knock on him was the level of competition. (KC: M. Flynn)

    5. Keith McGill (CB, Utah): A former JUCO safety, when he transferred to Utah, he moved to CB. He has the size to match our current CB stable (6’3”/202lbs) and can play in the slot do to fluid hips and 4.4 speed. He could also potentially be the long term replacement for Browner. (A. Curry trade)

    5. Kerwynn Williams (RB, Utah State): Williams is reunited with his former teammate Robert Turbin. Williams has big play ability and could be the perfect replacement for Leon Washington. He has great pass catching capabilities and can be lined up all over the field.

    6. Jordan Rodgers (QB, Vanderbilt): SEA drafts a QB to develop. He has NFL ties (brother of Aaron Rodgers), possesses good arm strength and good mobility. He will need to work on his decision-making and not force passes, but he should have time to develop.

    7. Caleb Sturgis (K, Florida): While Hauschka has done well, bringing in a young kid to push him couldn’t hurt. He went 23-27 (3/4 missed were blocked) in his senior year and 8-9 of those were over 41 yds. He’ll only get stronger and could be a young term. (BUF: T. Jackson)

    7. Mark Harrison (WR, Rutgers): He’s a BIG-bodied WR that has very good speed (4.57) for his size (6’3”/235lbs). He played in Rutger’s vertical offense and should be a target downfield. He will more than likely be depth, but we did find Baldwin as an UDFA. (Comp pick)

    7. Omar Hunter (DT, Florida): Standing 6’3”/314lbs, he played a big role without producing big stats. Quinn coached him the past 2 years and knows him well. He will be able to play inside and the 5-tech and depth across the DL will help out. (Comp pick)

    TRADE INFO: KC trades their 2013 5th rd pick, Tony Moeaki and a conditional 2014 pick for Matt Flynn and SEA’s 7th rd pick

    I also removed NO's 7th rd pick traded to us for Barret Ruud as nothing has been confirmed as of yet...
    Last edited by House; 02-01-2013 at 02:49 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by House View Post
    Here is my latest mock... Bomb away if you must!

    1. Margus Hunt (DL, SMU): “The Eastern Block” brings freakish size (6’8”/282lbs), versatility and extremely long arms. He can lineup anywhere on the DL and is a FG blocking machine. A down side is he is already 26 y/o, but he has only played football for a total of 3 yrs. Quinn will transcend this guy!

    2. Menelik Watson (OT, FSU): Originally a basketball player, he turned to football. He played 8 games in ’11, transferred to FSU and started all 12 games in ’12. Had a great showing at the Shrine Game and is highly regarded for having a great work ethic, learning aptitude and great athleticism.

    3. Jamie Collins (LB, Southern Miss): He’s a size/speed combo guy. Very good size (6’3”/242lbs) and runs in the 4.65 range. Very good tackling/coverage skills, but he will need to refine his technique a bit. He could be good depth and aim to challenge M. Smith to start.

    4. Michael Buchanan (DE, Illinois): At 6’4”/255lbs, he has played both the “Bandit” and “Leo” DE positions in ’12. He will provide depth and experience at the “Leo” position and can replace Clemons long term if Irvin proves to be a pass rush specialist.

    5. Brandon Kaufman (WR, Eastern Washington): He’s got very good size (6’4”/215lbs), hands and body control. He was very productive in EWU’s spread offense and the biggest knock on him was the level of competition. (KC: M. Flynn)

    5. Keith McGill (CB, Utah): A former JUCO safety, when he transferred to Utah, he moved to CB. He has the size to match our current CB stable (6’3”/202lbs) and can play in the slot do to fluid hips and 4.4 speed. He could also potentially be the long term replacement for Browner. (A. Curry trade)

    5. Kerwynn Williams (RB, Utah State): Williams is reunited with his former teammate Robert Turbin. Williams has big play ability and could be the perfect replacement for Leon Washington. He has great pass catching capabilities and can be lined up all over the field.

    6. Jordan Rodgers (QB, Vanderbilt): SEA drafts a QB to develop. He has NFL ties (brother of Aaron Rodgers), possesses good arm strength and good mobility. He will need to work on his decision-making and not force passes, but he should have time to develop.

    7. Caleb Sturgis (K, Florida): While Hauschka has done well, bringing in a young kid to push him couldn’t hurt. He went 23-27 (3/4 missed were blocked) in his senior year and 8-9 of those were over 41 yds. He’ll only get stronger and could be a young term. (BUF: T. Jackson)

    7. Mark Harrison (WR, Rutgers): He’s a BIG-bodied WR that has very good speed (4.57) for his size (6’3”/235lbs). He played in Rutger’s vertical offense and should be a target downfield. He will more than likely be depth, but we did find Baldwin as an UDFA. (Comp pick)

    7. Omar Hunter (DT, Florida): Standing 6’3”/314lbs, he played a big role without producing big stats. Quinn coached him the past 2 years and knows him well. He will be able to play inside and the 5-tech and depth across the DL will help out. (Comp pick)

    TRADE INFO: KC trades their 2013 5th rd pick, Tony Moeaki and a conditional 2014 pick for Matt Flynn and SEA’s 7th rd pick

    I also removed NO's 7th rd pick traded to us for Barret Ruud as nothing has been confirmed as of yet...
    I like it. I have watched a bit of Rodgers and he would be good backup and potential trade bait in few years.

    Dont know anything about the OT though. I am little concerned he was basketball player then became an offensive lineman recently. His body might break down quickly, adding the weight and taking punishment at same time like that is not good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shen View Post
    I like it. I have watched a bit of Rodgers and he would be good backup and potential trade bait in few years.

    Dont know anything about the OT though. I am little concerned he was basketball player then became an offensive lineman recently. His body might break down quickly, adding the weight and taking punishment at same time like that is not good.
    I do see what you're saying about Watson. He played BBall at around 270lbs. Adding 50lbs in three years could affect him. I would like to think the strength/conditioning coaches at a big school like FSU would've monitored it though. Watch this clip on him.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQrzT_tzc5I
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    Quote Originally Posted by House View Post
    Here is my latest mock... Bomb away if you must!

    1. Margus Hunt (DL, SMU): “The Eastern Block” brings freakish size (6’8”/282lbs), versatility and extremely long arms. He can lineup anywhere on the DL and is a FG blocking machine. A down side is he is already 26 y/o, but he has only played football for a total of 3 yrs. Quinn will transcend this guy!

    2. Menelik Watson (OT, FSU): Originally a basketball player, he turned to football. He played 8 games in ’11, transferred to FSU and started all 12 games in ’12. Had a great showing at the Shrine Game and is highly regarded for having a great work ethic, learning aptitude and great athleticism.

    3. Jamie Collins (LB, Southern Miss): He’s a size/speed combo guy. Very good size (6’3”/242lbs) and runs in the 4.65 range. Very good tackling/coverage skills, but he will need to refine his technique a bit. He could be good depth and aim to challenge M. Smith to start.

    4. Michael Buchanan (DE, Illinois): At 6’4”/255lbs, he has played both the “Bandit” and “Leo” DE positions in ’12. He will provide depth and experience at the “Leo” position and can replace Clemons long term if Irvin proves to be a pass rush specialist.

    5. Brandon Kaufman (WR, Eastern Washington): He’s got very good size (6’4”/215lbs), hands and body control. He was very productive in EWU’s spread offense and the biggest knock on him was the level of competition. (KC: M. Flynn)

    5. Keith McGill (CB, Utah): A former JUCO safety, when he transferred to Utah, he moved to CB. He has the size to match our current CB stable (6’3”/202lbs) and can play in the slot do to fluid hips and 4.4 speed. He could also potentially be the long term replacement for Browner. (A. Curry trade)

    5. Kerwynn Williams (RB, Utah State): Williams is reunited with his former teammate Robert Turbin. Williams has big play ability and could be the perfect replacement for Leon Washington. He has great pass catching capabilities and can be lined up all over the field.

    6. Jordan Rodgers (QB, Vanderbilt): SEA drafts a QB to develop. He has NFL ties (brother of Aaron Rodgers), possesses good arm strength and good mobility. He will need to work on his decision-making and not force passes, but he should have time to develop.

    7. Caleb Sturgis (K, Florida): While Hauschka has done well, bringing in a young kid to push him couldn’t hurt. He went 23-27 (3/4 missed were blocked) in his senior year and 8-9 of those were over 41 yds. He’ll only get stronger and could be a young term. (BUF: T. Jackson)

    7. Mark Harrison (WR, Rutgers): He’s a BIG-bodied WR that has very good speed (4.57) for his size (6’3”/235lbs). He played in Rutger’s vertical offense and should be a target downfield. He will more than likely be depth, but we did find Baldwin as an UDFA. (Comp pick)

    7. Omar Hunter (DT, Florida): Standing 6’3”/314lbs, he played a big role without producing big stats. Quinn coached him the past 2 years and knows him well. He will be able to play inside and the 5-tech and depth across the DL will help out. (Comp pick)

    TRADE INFO: KC trades their 2013 5th rd pick, Tony Moeaki and a conditional 2014 pick for Matt Flynn and SEA’s 7th rd pick

    I also removed NO's 7th rd pick traded to us for Barret Ruud as nothing has been confirmed as of yet...
    I love the Kaufman pick, I also like the Hunt pick. That's the guy I would target (or Eifert). So im guessing if we draft Hunt that means your expecting Branch and JJ are back? I also like the Rodgers pick. That makes Flynn expandable and being related to Aaron helps a lot.

    Im a bit surprised about Watson. OT could be a position we target, but I guess it all depends on who's available. Honestly I wouldn't be surprised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by House View Post
    I do see what you're saying about Watson. He played BBall at around 270lbs. Adding 50lbs in three years could affect him. I would like to think the strength/conditioning coaches at a big school like FSU would've monitored it though.
    Adding 50lbs and switching to most physical position in football from a not very physical sport. That is what scares e, his body is not getting time it needs to make transition in a sustainable way. I don't think he will have many years before he starts getting major injury's left and right and not long after forced to retire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seahawks509 View Post
    I love the Kaufman pick, I also like the Hunt pick. That's the guy I would target (or Eifert). So im guessing if we draft Hunt that means your expecting Branch and JJ are back? I also like the Rodgers pick. That makes Flynn expandable and being related to Aaron helps a lot.

    Im a bit surprised about Watson. OT could be a position we target, but I guess it all depends on who's available. Honestly I wouldn't be surprised.
    I am almost certain Jones will be back. Branch will be the wildcard. If he doesn't return, I can see us addressing a run-stopper in FA or later in the draft.

    I know a lot of people have mentioned Matt Scott (Arizona's name), but I think Rodgers could be a better fit.

    I have heard nothing but good things about Watson. I have also watch interviews if him and he seems very poised and has the "hard-worker" mentality. Giacomini is a FA after '13 and we will need to address the RT sooner than later.
    Quote Originally Posted by shen View Post
    Adding 50lbs and switching to most physical position in football from a not very physical sport. That is what scares e, his body is not getting time it needs to make transition in a sustainable way. I don't think he will have many years before he starts getting major injury's left and right and not long after forced to retire.
    That could very well be the case. I think that will be a BIG factor in the evaluation process
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    That weight is gonna kill him. Adding that much so fast. I am lifting with a former D2 strength and conditioning coach who's currently looking for jobs. Within a couple months I was putting on huge amounts of muscle. Since then I have had some back issues. It's because I've never been this big and I am putting weight on so fast and the body is having trouble transitioning. He could transition to it but who knows. It all depends on how his body is able to adjust. If the coach is really good then there are ways of getting around that. Foam rolling and other exercises to help strengthen his knees and back. Like all coaches, strength and conditioning coaches believe in different ways of lifting, and depending on what kind of method he beliefs could affect him.

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    I've gained around 15 pounds of muscle in 6 months. It's mainly cause I have learned how to lift correctly. My coach is amazing, I am never sore and every day I put up more weight. All of my lifts have increased so much and my back (which was having trouble supporting my body) is a lot stronger than it used to be. I still need to work on my diet, try to slim down because like I said all the weight added at once isn't good for the body and joints.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexander_37 View Post
    KJ and Hawthorne run a late 4.7x.

    IDK I could see Manti being solid against TE's, great in zone, and one of the best we could get vs. the run.

    He would be a clear upgrade over KJ.

    What round would you take him in.
    Wright plays much faster than his 40 time and Te'o would not be a clear upgrade over him, if at all.
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    It doesn't matter cause I highly doubt Manti is even available for us in the 1st. This whole GF thing is BS. Who care, all I care is if he can play. One game doesn't change what he's been doing his whole career.

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