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    The Sixers average net 1st quarter margin is -3.2 points, putting them 27th in the NBA.

    Of the Bottom 8 teams in this category, only us and the Bobcats have winning records. In 2011, we were +0.6 for the season in that category. I remember feeling that getting off to slow starts was problem for most of last year, but I guess the night shift would often come in the late 1st quarter and erase the deficit quickly.
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    https://twitter.com/derekbodner/stat...98694079205376

    Jrue Holiday during age 22 season (14 gm): 18.6 ppg, 9.2 apg, 4.3 topg, 44.7%, 41.3% 3pt. Deron Williams age 22: 16.2/9.3/3.1 45.6%/32.2%
    Just sayin...

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    Nice!
    Pay attention. You might learn something.

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    Eh. Can't say the "age thing" is all that relevant. Compare the two in their 4th years...now THAT would be relevant. And DW was a 20/11 guy in that year.

    Damn good, both of them. But the age comparison is weak.

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    In terms of league experience, I agree with you RP. It's a weak comparison.

    But in terms of potential/physical primes of both players, I think it's a more fair comparison. In D-Will's 4th year, he was 24 years old, and was almost a 20/11 guy like you said. At 22, Jrue is averaging 19/9. Based on his improvement this year (even if he regresses a bit statistically from this point), it wouldn't be unexpected if he can be a 20/11 guy by age 24.

    Last year, at 27, D-Will was a 21/9 guy. Jrue is 5 years away from turning 27. The sky's the limit on what he'll be doing by then.

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    https://twitter.com/derekbodner/stat...52646100164608

    Evan Turner's last 6: 16.0 ppg, 6.5 rpg, 5.2 apg, 46.6% from field, 38.5% from 3. Last 2 games getting to the line huge

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    Great to see him taking 3 point shots more confidently...particularly from the corner. Still too many catch and shoot jumpers to my liking, though.
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    I really want to see this guy turn the corner. He's starting to get there but consistency is the key.

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    His point play and his 3 point shooting have improved. However, I don't see the consistency/production rounding into forum until his role in the half court offense becomes bigger....particularly in the 1st half of games. He had a big night against OKC despite almost shockingly playing less point all of the sudden (6 assists to <2 TO's in previous 4 games with increased point play), and barely factoring into the half court offense for the 1st half of the game. If catch and shoot jumpers and the slow break after defensive rebounds are his most consistent forms of offensive opportunity, then the inconsistency is likely to continue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RickyPrior View Post
    Eh. Can't say the "age thing" is all that relevant. Compare the two in their 4th years...now THAT would be relevant. And DW was a 20/11 guy in that year.

    Damn good, both of them. But the age comparison is weak.
    agreed.

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    D Will did have Boozer who was all star good and scored in the paint. Imagine if Jrue ever gets to play with Bynum....


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    Quote Originally Posted by 2-ONE-5 View Post
    D Will did have Boozer who was all star good and scored in the paint. Imagine if Jrue ever gets to play with Bynum....
    lol, also agreed.

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    D Will had also played a tonne more minutes than Jrue by the start of his 4th season (about 20% more), not to mention his two extra years playing 30+ minutes per night in college.
    In short, D Will was a far more developed player coming in - their career paths were always going to be different.

    But anyway, considering we're talking about a top PG, the comparison of 4th season vs 4th season is still pretty damn positive to me:

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/...idjr01&y2=2013

    Regardless of which you think is more relevant, both comparisons are pretty encouraging.

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    Sorry to keep stealing from Bodner, but I'm loving the stats he's tweeting lately:

    https://twitter.com/derekbodner/stat...20267014709248

    Holiday last 7 games: 18.9 ppg, 9.4 apg, 3.3 topg, 46.1% fg, 41.2% 3. Turner: 16.9 ppg, 6.2 rpg, 5 apg, 48.9% fg%. Great tandem right now

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    Quote Originally Posted by sixer04fan View Post
    Sorry to keep stealing from Bodner, but I'm loving the stats he's tweeting lately:

    https://twitter.com/derekbodner/stat...20267014709248
    I can't help but imagine how good we could possibly be if Iggy was still on the perimeter with them. He showed a willingness to defer to them offensively as the season went on last year. The ball could have easily been in their hands this year with the same development with Iguodala still playing a strong role at starting SF.
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