The Martino story was stuff he'd seen (Martino probably spends much more time in the clubhouse than the Wilpons do)..stuff that had been reported even while Pagan was still here...about how his attitude seemed a lot different from the previous years. And some of that was talked about as reasons the Mets were thinking about non-tendering him. This isn't all just a post-hoc analysis to explain away a poor trade. Besides, its not like the media lately has been in the business of trying to make the Mets and/or the Wilpons look good. The Wilpons deserve flack for a lot of things...but a "smear" campaign against Pagan after he left isn't one of them. This isnt a smear campaign. If you want to get on them for being cheap and the $ being part of the reason Sandy chose to move Pagan, that is fine...but treating this article as some big smear is silly IMO.
I actually give Martino some credit for not backtracking and pretending he knew all along it was crazy for the Mets to trade Pagan. It's fun and easy to rip the Mets these days....he could join the party if he wanted to and tear them apart for this trade now that it hasn't worked out. But he stuck by what he had reported previously. Below are just a couple blurbs from what he wrote about Pagan around mid-year and after the season last yr, respectively.
http://articles.nydailynews.com/2011...-terry-collinsAngel Pagan, in 2010, was the guy who told you he believed in the Mets, even when it was clear the team was sinking. He was smiling. He was chatting. He was productive and he was engaged.
Angel Pagan, in 2011, is the guy with the headphones, staring into his locker. He is often frowning. He is not productive and he seldom interacts with teammates. Why?
"I'm fine," Pagan insisted on Friday, a few minutes after a 20-minute meeting with Terry Collins. The manager wanted to know if everything was OK and coincidentally, a reporter was wondering the same. Carlos Beltran has also sat with Pagan for numerous long talks this year.
http://articles.nydailynews.com/2011...ence-nontenderSeveral times last season Terry Collins tried to connect with Pagan, calling him into the office and asking why he was sulking. A positive clubhouse presence the year before, Pagan seem troubled by his dip in performance in 2011. Although he enjoyed a far better season at the plate than Ankiel did, some Mets officials strongly believe that Pagan will not be a good fit next year.
Last edited by Raspy44; 10-25-2012 at 01:31 PM.
Carrasco got 2 year deal. The Mets couldn't afford that.
Francisco only received a 2 year deal at 6.5 million, not a bad contract that hamstrings the franchise.
What about Paulino? He had an ops of .663 last year.
We are already discussing the Pagan trade.
They were looking to resign Reyes, it fell thru.
K-Rod was a salary dump, this franchise couldn't afford a 17 million dollar option.
ďNinety percent Iíll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey. The other ten percent Iíll probably waste.Ē
- Tug McGraw, on his plans for his $75,000 salary
"Mr. Martin Tanner, Baritone, of Dayton, Ohio made his Town Hall debut last night. He came well prepared, but unfortunately his presentation was not up to contemporary professional standards. His voice lacks the range of tonal color necessary to make it consistently interesting. Full time consideration of another endeavor might be in order."
Carrasco and Paulino were his big winter meeting signings and both ****ing sucked balls and are long gone.
Francisco at 2 years 12 million looks TERRIBLE right now. $6.5MM could have gotten us an outfielder this off-season via FA market.
They were never seriously looking to re-sign Reyes and he left. That is a fail.
K-Rod was a salary dump, but I thought the idea was to re-invest that money in the team? The players we got for him are useless and the money went unspent.
That is 7 players that were failures in the way they performed or the way they were handled.
...and Shoppach sucked in his brief time here.
...but again he is forced to scrape the bottom of the barrel here with these guys because of the ****ing owners.
The one thing I hate Sandy for is not re-signing Reyes, IMO it was the Wilpon's being in debt and Sandy not wanting to give Reyes a long term deal the reason why he is not here anymore, the rest of the moves he has made have been minor ones.
In my book Sandy has done 1 awful thing and one great thing as a Mets GM, the great thing is getting Wheeler obviously.
Last edited by Sick Of It All; 10-25-2012 at 08:55 PM.
Pretty much every move Alderson has made so far has been a complete bust.
Letting Capuano and Pagan go was just awful.
He got nothing in return for Krod and Beltran would have helped us tremendously.
Having Dickey, Capuano, Santana, Niese, Gee, Harvey, and Young with Pagan, Krod, and Beltran could very well have made us a legit playoff contender.
Last edited by Vintage; 10-26-2012 at 04:02 AM.