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    Cubs interested in Josh Johnson?

    The Chicago Cubs could add some big-name pitchers with big pay days still ahead of them.


    Cubs president of baseball operations Theo Epstein told beat reporters that the Cubs will add starting pitching to the mix in their pursuit to improve on a 101-loss season. The Miami Marlins are hoping to dump some of their high salary pitching contracts as part of their new approach going forward, according to major league sources.

    Sources indicate that pitchers Josh Johnson and Mark Buehrle are on the trading block this offseason. Johnson's contract appears to fit into the Cubs' short-term plans. The 28-year-old pitcher has one year remaining on a long-term contract at $ 13.750 million for 2013. The Marlins will look for younger prospects and as much payroll relief they can get in each deal they make.

    The Cubs have $50 million coming off their 2012 payroll commitments. It appears they will be willing to add contracts such as Johnson's due to the flexibility of his current status. He will be eligible for free agency after 2013.

    Epstein and GM Jed Hoyer are looking for quality pitchers that they can either sign to long-term deals or flip before the July 31 trading deadline for other potential pitching prospects.

    The sources indicated that the Marlins would approach the Cubs and other teams with the payroll flexibility to take on most of the money owed on the contracts for Buehrle and Johnson.

    Johnson was 8-14 with a 3.81 ERA in 2012. The 6-foot-7 pitcher has a 56-37 lifetime record with a 3.15 ERA with the Marlins. His best season was 2009 when he went 15-5 with a 3.23 ERA in 33 starts.

    Buehrle's contract is much more problematic than Johnson's. The former White Sox star has a back-loaded deal that pays him $11 million in 2013, $18 million in 2014 and $19 million in 2015. Buehrle will be 34 in March.
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    Not his biggest fan, but yes please. Big bodied power rotation arms are always welcome.

    What would it cost? What if they also tried to squeeze Logan Morrison out of it? I'd like to land Morrison most amongst realistic and quasi-realistic Marlins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SenorGato View Post
    Not his biggest fan, but yes please. Big bodied power rotation arms are always welcome.

    What would it cost? What if they also tried to squeeze Logan Morrison out of it? I'd like to land Morrison most amongst realistic and quasi-realistic Marlins.
    Could even do a Dodgers/Red Sox type trade where the Cubs take on those two contracts along with LoMo for minimal prospects. Albeit, I'm still baffled by the Buerhle contract Miami handed out...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Assman22 View Post
    Could even do a Dodgers/Red Sox type trade where the Cubs take on those two contracts along with LoMo for minimal prospects. Albeit, I'm still baffled by the Buerhle contract Miami handed out...
    The Buerhle deal is actually fine given how stable and productive his career has been and still is.

    Morrison seems like the exact kind of player they would target with his minor league numbers, youth, and potential to outperform what he's already done. All this talk of acquiring pitching but one way to help your pitchers is to hit better and hitters should not be ignored.

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    I love the idea but I'm just not sure I'd be willing to give up the prospects and the big contract with his injury history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gocubs2118 View Post
    I love the idea but I'm just not sure I'd be willing to give up the prospects and the big contract with his injury history.
    Presumably, the more money we take on, the lesser the prospects we'll give up.

    And it's the last year of his contract, so it's not like it's a huge commitment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milnertime View Post
    Presumably, the more money we take on, the lesser the prospects we'll give up.

    And it's the last year of his contract, so it's not like it's a huge commitment.
    That's true but it's still not going to be chump change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gocubs2118 View Post
    That's true but it's still not going to be chump change.
    Look what they gave up Cabrera for.

    They're interested in losing payroll more than bringing in potential talent, IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milnertime View Post
    Look what they gave up Cabrera for.

    They're interested in losing payroll more than bringing in potential talent, IMO.
    exactly, Theo and Jed are interested because they are going to try to poach good talent for little in return. Good for them for attempting this.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gocubs2118 View Post
    That's true but it's still not going to be chump change.
    I think it could be.....they essentially traded Hanley for Eovaldi. Johnson with 1 year left on his contract might be attainable for the Jackson/Vitters pupu platter if we absorb the whole salary.

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    I don't see the need to extend him. Flip him...If he's fixed up a bigger contender out there will definitely be interested.

    Former Marlins pitchers are weird. Beckett, Pavano, Burnett, Penny, Volstad....None of these guys ever fully lived up to the hype.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SenorGato View Post
    I don't see the need to extend him. Flip him...If he's fixed up a bigger contender out there will definitely be interested.

    Former Marlins pitchers are weird. Beckett, Pavano, Burnett, Penny, Volstad....None of these guys ever fully lived up to the hype.
    I'll take a Beckett or a Burnett at 28 any day of the week - twice on sundays

    Put Vitters in some kind of deal with them, eat majority of the contract and bring us wright/headley
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    This is probably a dumb question, but how is his best season for ERA (3.23) higher than his career ERA (3.15)? I'm not trying to point to ERA for justification I just don't understand the math there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobTheAutomator View Post
    This is probably a dumb question, but how is his best season for ERA (3.23) higher than his career ERA (3.15)? I'm not trying to point to ERA for justification I just don't understand the math there.
    I think you just misread the post.

    The article said "The 6-foot-7 pitcher has a 56-37 lifetime record with a 3.15 ERA with the Marlins. His best season was 2009 when he went 15-5 with a 3.23 ERA in 33 starts. "

    They are looking at his win/loss record as his best season, not necessarily his ERA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobTheAutomator View Post
    This is probably a dumb question, but how is his best season for ERA (3.23) higher than his career ERA (3.15)? I'm not trying to point to ERA for justification I just don't understand the math there.
    It's by wins. His best season ERA-wise was 2010 when he had a 2.30.

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