The Official 2012-2013 New York Yankees Offseason Thread

[RCSownsU]

Those new Hot dude shows start tonight on the play girl Network for those who enjoy that stuff...I know i do

[JobaRules26]

Hot Stove shows start tonight on YES and MLB Network for those who enjoy that stuff...

[rrzubnyy]

Lol do you just post without reading lol

They will spend......maybe not in 2013-2014 but when a great player comes available and he is a star attraction they will sign him to help the organization make more money....they are in it for $$$$$$$$$$$$$

[rrzubnyy]

[QUOTE=leoharris;24293465]^ two unrelated comments on your post info:

1- Don't be fooled that the Yankee Ownership only considers WS Titles as success. Making money far outweighs titles.

If that is the case then you can't get people to pay outrageous ticket prices to watch players sling around horse crap, eventually the fans will tell them to screw off like the Mets fans have......they just do not want to continue the 7+ year contracts and are hoping other teams take notice and follow the same path....

I think 4-5 year deals will be the norm now........if that is the case the Yankees will still spend like drunken sailors.....

[Pootamis91]

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/1...in-napoli.html

rather have Martin but Napoli would be a good fit here

[JdKing7]

Someone who can bat .265, get 13 to 15 hrs and about 60 RBIs (assuming no decrease). So.....Nunez. Oh wait, he already plays for the Yanks at less than 5% the cost of the current player.

Arod = 29 mil
Nunez = 500k

The same person that can't field a ground ball if his life depended on it and when he does he sails it into te 10th row. The Yankees ****ed up giving that idiot that contract anyway. Its a sin anyway people can't afford to eat and that tool makes 30 million a year jerking off in the batters box and basically doing jack ****. I wouldnt be able to sleep at night if inwere him. But ill e pissed if the yankees get rid of cano of lose him to free agency next year. I read something that says the yankees could have a one billion a year payroll and still break out even. The yankees organization sure has changed to being money hungry.

[DasBoot]

Alfonso Soriano?

Where exactly is the evidence that this guy will hit for power? he has 7 career home runs in 500 abs..

Soriano blasted 18 homeruns and stole over 40 bags in 600 at bats..

Nunez is close to a Soriano with his bat.. Rafael Soriano..

First - Soriano had consistent playing time.

Second - He hits absolute bombs for home runs

Third - Cute Rafael reference

Did you see that at bat in game 3 against Verlander when Verlander was at his best and throwing crazy breaking balls and 99mph fastballs? Nunie was putting the bat to everything then hit an absolute shot.

Give him consistent time and find him a spot on the team and make him work all winter at that spot in the field and you'll see... mark my word on it.

[Yankee Clipper]

Update on Hunter:

The Tigers are reportedly the front-runners to sign free agent outfielder Torii Hunter.

A name regularly linked to the Yankees since the end of the season, Hunter is considered one of the better short-term outfielders on the market. It was reported during last week’s GM Meetings that the Yankees are hesitant to offer Hunter a two-year deal, and that might knock them out of the running.

Hunter has told the MLB Network that he wants to make a decision quickly, and a report out of Los Angeles puts that timeframe within two weeks. That’s not a lot of time for the Yankees, who have a more pressing need in their rotation now that Hiroki Kuroda is an uncertainty. Hunter reportedly wants to stay in the American League, but if the Yankees can’t offer a market-value contract and can’t commit quickly, Hunter could be off the market before the end of the month.

Yankees LoHud

[Yankee Clipper]

Yankees reportedly have interest in Napoli:

Via Bob Nightengale: The Yankees have interest in free agent catcher, first baseman, and DH Mike Napoli. He’s also been linked to the Red Sox and Mariners this offseason.

Napoli, 31, hit .227/.343/.469 (114 wRC+) with 24 homers this season, and the Rangers didn’t make him a qualifying offer so it won’t cost a draft pick to sign him. I’m not sure what the Yankees would do with him unless they truly think he can catch 100+ games next year, which is something we have no reason to believe. He hasn’t started even 80 games behind the plate since 2009. I get the sense that this might be more about driving up the price for Boston than it is acquiring a good hitter who is an imperfect fit for the roster.

http://riveraveblues.com/2012/11/nig...-napoli-79130/

[LeoYankee]

Also, dodgers favorite on Kuroda now. Ugh.

[Yankee Clipper]

Also, dodgers favorite on Kuroda now. Ugh.

Where did you see that?

[LeoYankee]

It appears that the Robinson Cano negotiations are over before they even got started. Only Karl Rove could be surprised by this outcome.

With Scott Boras' penchant for taking his clients to free agency and Hal Steinbrenner's desire for an $189M payroll for 2014, the idea that this could work out now seemed beyond farfetched. Cano was never giving any pinstriped discount and Boras would only tell Cano to sign early for a market setting contract.

So we are where we thought we would be. Where we are going is a quite interesting question. So let's look a little into the future.

One Year From Now

One of the biggest stories of next offseason will not only be: Can the Yankees keep Cano, but should they? Cano is a great player. He is the one youngish superstar the Yankees have, but they will surely be asked to dole out an eight-to-10 year contract at $20-25 million per season for a second baseman who will be 31 by then.

A lot can change in the next 365, but let's assume that Cano has a regular Cano year and the Yankees are still committed to $189M.

The Yankees should be able to give Cano a substantial raise, but any extra money you give Cano is money that you can't use in '14.

Now, why don't you just give Cano a lower salary in '14 and then have it balloon later in his contract? It doesn't work that way. The implications for the luxury tax are based on average annual value. So you can't play any tricks on Bud Selig's system.

So, if everything remains the same, Boras and the Yankees will be dominating the headlines at this time next year.

2018 and beyond

It is pretty much a no-brainer that you would want Cano for the next five years, beginning in '14 and ending in his age 35 season of 2018. Having Cano, probably MLB's best second baseman, for the next six years, counting 2013, is something the Yankees will sign up for.

But when you look at these long-term contracts, the success rates aren't great. Alex Rodriguez and Derek Jeter's original 10-year deals were good ones. You could argue they were overpaid, but they were inked before either hit 30 and they produced throughout.

A-Rod's current deal? Well, you know all about that one. That is why the Yankees have to think long and hard about what to finally give to Cano. Can they really go eight to 10 years and risk that the final three to five years will drag down payroll as his production wanes?

At the same time, they are the Yankees. They can't just let their youngest franchise player walk for a first-round pick, can they?

Would you consider trading Cano this winter for a huge package of younger players? I don't think that is impossible, but I do believe it is highly, highly unlikely.

[LeoYankee]

Where did you see that?

Mlbtr

[theslick1]

Yankees reportedly have interest in Napoli:

I hope that's false unless he's one of those 2M a year players.

[PACISLE]

It appears that the Robinson Cano negotiations are over before they even got started. Only Karl Rove could be surprised by this outcome.

With Scott Boras' penchant for taking his clients to free agency and Hal Steinbrenner's desire for an $189M payroll for 2014, the idea that this could work out now seemed beyond farfetched. Cano was never giving any pinstriped discount and Boras would only tell Cano to sign early for a market setting contract.

So we are where we thought we would be. Where we are going is a quite interesting question. So let's look a little into the future.

One Year From Now

One of the biggest stories of next offseason will not only be: Can the Yankees keep Cano, but should they? Cano is a great player. He is the one youngish superstar the Yankees have, but they will surely be asked to dole out an eight-to-10 year contract at $20-25 million per season for a second baseman who will be 31 by then.

A lot can change in the next 365, but let's assume that Cano has a regular Cano year and the Yankees are still committed to $189M.

The Yankees should be able to give Cano a substantial raise, but any extra money you give Cano is money that you can't use in '14.

Now, why don't you just give Cano a lower salary in '14 and then have it balloon later in his contract? It doesn't work that way. The implications for the luxury tax are based on average annual value. So you can't play any tricks on Bud Selig's system.

So, if everything remains the same, Boras and the Yankees will be dominating the headlines at this time next year.

2018 and beyond

It is pretty much a no-brainer that you would want Cano for the next five years, beginning in '14 and ending in his age 35 season of 2018. Having Cano, probably MLB's best second baseman, for the next six years, counting 2013, is something the Yankees will sign up for.

But when you look at these long-term contracts, the success rates aren't great. Alex Rodriguez and Derek Jeter's original 10-year deals were good ones. You could argue they were overpaid, but they were inked before either hit 30 and they produced throughout.

A-Rod's current deal? Well, you know all about that one. That is why the Yankees have to think long and hard about what to finally give to Cano. Can they really go eight to 10 years and risk that the final three to five years will drag down payroll as his production wanes?

At the same time, they are the Yankees. They can't just let their youngest franchise player walk for a first-round pick, can they?

Would you consider trading Cano this winter for a huge package of younger players? I don't think that is impossible, but I do believe it is highly, highly unlikely.

I think they traded their youngest franchise player already (Montero). Cano is 31. Not exactly young to begin a 8 to 10 year contract. But i guess if you want to reward him, go or it. Tough call but i would consider trading him.