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    Arod is done...why not let him rot with the Yankees lol
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    ok, lets look at the numbers:

    Alex Rodriguez 2012 Stats
    BA HR RBI OBP SLG
    .272 18 57 .353 .430

    Compared to the phillies top offensive performers
    Jimmy Rollins 2012 Stats
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    .250 23 68 .316 .427

    Carlos Ruiz 2012 Stats
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    .325 16 68 .394 .540

    Do NOT compare a-rod to the almighty (Cabrera, Wright, Beltre) compare him against the alternative (Polonco, Frandsen, Wigginton, Orr)

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    And then compare the respective contracts and injury history. Its not a very good investment. Let him rot in NY. Unless they get smart and move him to DH

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    But...

    there's the problem of compensation and there's the greater problem of position. An over/under of 75 games in the field seems reasonable.
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    I mean if they are paying 80% of his salary going forward and we give up garbage, that would give the Phillies a temporary, health risk 3rd baseman a at tolerable price for at least two years. The following three years would be tricky though.. I'm not even convinced he can play 3rd for 2 more years let alone 5.

    Depending on the deal, I might bite the bullet and trade for him if you can't get Headley at a reasonable price.

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    wow, I can't believe people actually would want this guy...he's a lightning (a)rod for hate...the team doesn't need that...and they CERTAINLY don't need his 75 games (only) in the field as ATeam suggests, and I concur....the Yankees would need to pay $100m or his remaining money for me to even pick uip the phone...even then I don't give them any return on that...throw them a nothing spec...nope...don't want him...he's a cancer...

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    ok, lets say they pick up 70% of his remaining money,

    who would you rather have at 3b? A-Rod or polonco, orr, wiggington, frandsen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BFeez View Post
    ok, lets say they pick up 70% of his remaining money,

    who would you rather have at 3b? A-Rod or polonco, orr, wiggington, frandsen?
    Spare me all of them.
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    Ok let's ignore the $30 mil marketing agreement for this.

    A-Rod has $114 mil remaining over 5 years. 30% of that is $34.2 mil or $6.84 mil per season.

    At that rate, I think it's hard to complain. He's a good bet to eclipse 6 WAR in the next 3 seasons which would roughly cover his costs. Any production in the final two seasons would be gravy.

    The real problem with trading for A-Rod is the roster crunch it would create. Between A-Rod, Utley, and Howard, the Phillies would need to roster a high quality utility infielder to fill gaps. This is in addition to the two outfield platoons and the catcher platoon that seem likely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The A Team View Post
    Ok let's ignore the $30 mil marketing agreement for this.

    A-Rod has $114 mil remaining over 5 years. 30% of that is $34.2 mil or $6.84 mil per season.

    At that rate, I think it's hard to complain. He's a good bet to eclipse 6 WAR in the next 3 seasons which would roughly cover his costs. Any production in the final two seasons would be gravy.

    The real problem with trading for A-Rod is the roster crunch it would create. Between A-Rod, Utley, and Howard, the Phillies would need to roster a high quality utility infielder to fill gaps. This is in addition to the two outfield platoons and the catcher platoon that seem likely.
    Assuming J-Roll is here, wouldn't that be Galvis? I have no idea if he can be as effective at 3rd as he was at 2nd and SS, but I'd be willing to gamble on that if A-Rod was gifted to us.

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    No. When I say high quality utility infielder, I mean vintage Mark DeRosa. Somebody you can plan to start 140 games while getting above average production.
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    Like Keppinger, Scutaro, and hell I'd even look at Kelly Johnson.

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    I don't know that Johnson would have enough utility. Then again, beggars...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burkey3472 View Post
    A-rod on any NL team is a bad move. Guy is going to be a train wreck soon at 3rd base in terms of fielding.
    He's still a capable fielder. It's simply a matter of when he breaks down.

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    Yeah that makes zero sense from The Yanks end
    Unless a team takes on a good chunk of his contract, what do the Yankees gain in trading him. If they pay most of his contract, they still have to go acquire a 3rd baseman. At that point they might be paying more money to someone not as good.

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    I wish we had a GM we could trust, so that we could dismiss insane rumors like this the second we hear them. Instead, I'll worry until A-Rod gets traded somewhere else or we acquire another third baseman.
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