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  1. #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by drose View Post
    How are people not putting Rizzo for NL ROY or at least top 3
    Because he wasn't better than or as good as Frazier, Miley, and Harper

    You also have Yonder Alonso, Aoki, Pacheco, and Rosario and you could easily argue for Matt Carpenter.

    All of these guys deserve votes over Rizzo IMO.
    Last edited by Jeffy25; 10-21-2012 at 07:46 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffy25 View Post
    Because he wasn't better than or as good as Frazier, Miley, and Harper

    You also have Yonder Alonso, Aoki, Pacheco, and Rosario and you could easily argue for Matt Carpenter.

    All of these guys deserve votes over Rizzo IMO.
    I would take Rizzo over Harper and those other 2 all day

    Yes I am a Cubs fan but he did play some great ball this year. He's also got a solid glove as well.

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    Westbrook only because I think Rose is a bit selfish and that hurts his likelihood of winning a title, all flash and no cash for Rose



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    Quote Originally Posted by drose View Post
    I would take Rizzo over Harper and those other 2 all day

    Yes I am a Cubs fan but he did play some great ball this year. He's also got a solid glove as well.
    Just Harper

    597 PA, 86 Runs Created, .352 wOBA, 121 wRC+, played great defense in center field

    Rizzo
    368 PA, 52 Runs Created, .349 wOBA, 116 wRC+, played average defense at first

    Harper hit better than Rizzo, in 200 more PA, and played defense and ran the bases better.

    I can't see any reason to vote for Rizzo over Harper for ROY

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    Oh well that's what I get for not paying attention the last month of the season

    I still think he is worthy of serious consideration though, it's an insult to Rizzo that he's not even being considered.

    On Rose vs. Westbrook:
    Quote Originally Posted by PhillyFaninLA View Post
    Westbrook only because I think Rose is a bit selfish and that hurts his likelihood of winning a title, all flash and no cash for Rose



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    Why do we have to consider the 7th place guy when 1-3 are the only ones with a chance at it?
    You have no idea how excited I am right now.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jej View Post
    Why do we have to consider the 7th place guy when 1-3 are the only ones with a chance at it?
    Are you asking why the MVP ballot has 10 slots?

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    No, I was talking to drose saying he thinks Rizzo should be getting talked about more.
    You have no idea how excited I am right now.


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    Quote Originally Posted by drose View Post
    Oh well that's what I get for not paying attention the last month of the season

    I still think he is worthy of serious consideration though, it's an insult to Rizzo that he's not even being considered.
    Not really, this year's rookie class is just superb. He's not good enough to win it, be in the top 3, or maybe even be in the top 5.

    He played solid this year, but other rookies played better.

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    AL MVP
    1 Mike Trout
    2 Miguel Cabrera
    3 Robinson Cano
    4 Adrian Beltre
    5 Edwin Encarnacion
    6 Justin Verlander
    7 Alex Gordon
    8 Felix Hernandez
    9 Ben Zobrist
    10 Josh Hamilton


    NL MVP
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    2 Yadier Molina
    3 Andrew McCutchen
    4 Ryan Braun
    5 Chase Headley
    6 David Wright
    7 Giancarlo Stanton
    8 Joey Votto
    9 Clayton Kershaw
    10 Aramis Ramirez

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    2 David Price
    3 Chris Sale
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    2 R.A. Dickey
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    3 Yoennis Cespedes

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    C - Joe Mauer
    Carlos Santana
    AJ Pierzynzki

    1B - Prince Fielder
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    Paul Konerko

    2B - Robinson Cano
    Ben Zobrist
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    3B - Miguel Cabrera
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    SS - Derek Jeter
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    RF - Alex Rios
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    DH - Edwin Encarnacion
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    P - Mike Leake
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    C - Buster Posey
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    1B - Joey Votto
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    2B - Aaron Hill
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    SS - Ian Desmond
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    LF - Ryan Braun
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    CF - Andrew McCutchen
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    Adam Dunn
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    Chris Sale
    Jim Johnson
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    Last edited by Nomar; 10-22-2012 at 07:39 PM.

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    Just a reminder that all voters have until the middle of next week to get their votes in, and just a reminder, post-season performances don't matter one bit in the voting. Just to be clear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drose View Post
    I would take Rizzo over Harper and those other 2 all day

    Yes I am a Cubs fan but he did play some great ball this year. He's also got a solid glove as well.
    remember...harper is only 19 and he is the youngest player ever to participate in an all star....its unanimous......its trout and harper.......its not even close

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    Rizzo may not even have 30 HR power, Harper has already almost guaranteed he does, while playing superior defense in one of the hardest positions.

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    Cabrera is clearly the AL MVP.
    Last edited by Jeffy25; 10-23-2012 at 02:24 PM. Reason: removed insult

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    How is Cabrera clearly the MVP? Trout had a better season, look past HR and RBI.



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    The new triple crown is wOBA, wRC+, and WAR.

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