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    2012 PSD Awards Votes

    Just like last year, I will be hosting the annual PSD awards votes.

    You will submit your vote for each available award by PM. If you simply post it in this thread, IT WILL NOT COUNT.

    You are also welcomed to post in this thread your selections, but it isn't necessary and again, that will not count as your vote. You must Private Message me your ballot!!!!


    The deadline for submitting ballots is midnight November 2nd, so you'll have through 1st to send your ballot in.

    PLEASE READ ALL THE RULES
    There have been some changes to the ballots, most notably the Gold Glove award for outfielders.

    Rules:
    1) All ballots must be sent by Private Message to Jeffy25.

    2) Please try to be as unbiased as you can when voting. Please vote for players based on the merits of their performance and the award at hand. Don't vote for your favorite players if they're clearly not worthy.

    3) All ballots must be easily readable. Each award has multiple slots on the ballot. Please number your ballot for each award so that the spot you place a player is easily seen. Alternatively, you can list players separated by commas, with your #1 vote being first, #2 second, and so on.

    4) You do not have to vote for each award. Just make sure to designate which awards you are voting for. See the following for an example of an organized ballot:
    AL MVP
    1) Player X
    2) Player F
    3) Player V
    4) Player FH
    5) Player YF
    6) Player ET
    7) Player UV
    8) Player AG
    9) Player ED
    10) Player YI

    NL MVP
    1) Player Z
    2) Player A
    3) Player B
    4) Player UR
    5) Player KF
    6) Player AD
    7) Player WE
    8) Player PL
    9) Player CB
    10) Player GH

    AL Cy Young
    1) Player 1
    2) Player 2
    3) Player 3
    4) Player 4
    5) Player 5

    NL Cy Young
    1) Player 6
    2) Player 7
    3) Player 8
    4) Player 9
    5) Player 10

    or, alternatively:
    AL MVP: Player 1, Player 2, Player 3, Player 4, etc.
    AL Cy Young: Player 1, Player 2, Player 3
    AL ROTY: Player 1, Player 2, Player 3

    5) Please fill out the EXACT amount of slots available for any awards you're voting for. For MVP, please list exactly 10 players, no more, no less. For Cy Young, exactly 5 pitchers. For Gold Glove and Silver Slugger, exactly 3 players per position, and so on.

    6) Any ballots that don't adhere to these rules will not be counted. I will reply to you if your ballot does not follow the rules, and give you a chance to resubmit it in accordance with the rules.


    The awards we will be voting on are as follows. Each award will have two winners, one from each league, so please vote separately for each league in each award. Note that this does not apply to the Loaiza/Anderson/Turnbow awards, which will have one winner from all of MLB rather than one per league. The numbers in parenthesis are the amount of players per league each voter must list on their ballot.

    For the 10-slot MVP ballot, a 1st place vote is worth 14 points, a 2nd place vote is worth 9 points, a 3rd place vote is worth 8 points, and so on down to a 10th place vote being worth 1 point.

    For the 5-slot Cy Young ballot, a 1st place vote is worth 7 points, a 2nd place vote is worth 4 points, a 3rd place vote is worth 3 points, a 4th place vote is worth 2 points and a 5th place vote is worth 1 point.

    For all 3-slot ballots, a 1st place vote is worth 5 points, a 2nd place vote is worth 3 points, and a 3rd place vote is worth 1 point.




    Here are the number of votes you need to fill out
    One per league:
    Most Valuable Player (10)
    Cy Young Award (5)
    Rookie of the Year (3) (The rookie thresholds are 130 at bats, 50 innings pitched, or 45 days on the active roster of a major league club, excluding time on the disabled list. A player who, at the beginning of the season, is over any of those thresholds is not eligible for the award.)
    Relief Pitcher of the Year (3)
    Hank Aaron Award (3) (Best offensive performer)
    Gold Glove (3 P, 3 C, 3 1B, 3 2B, 3 3B, 3 SS, 3 LF, 3 CF, 3 RF)
    Silver Slugger (3 P in NL, 3 DH in AL, 3 C, 3 1B, 3 2B, 3 3B, 3 SS, 3 LF, 3 CF, 3 RF)
    Manager of the Year (3)
    General Manager of the Year (3)
    Comeback Player of the Year (3)
    Breakout Position Player of the Year (3)
    Breakout Pitcher of the Year (3)

    One for MLB:
    Esteban Loaiza Award (3)
    Brady Anderson Award (3)
    Derrick Turnbow Award (3)

    Please make note that each separate outfield position will get its own award for Gold Glove. On your ballots, please list a player at the position which he played the most games.

    For descriptions of the following six awards - Comeback Player, Breakout Position Player, Breakout Pitcher, Esteban Loaiza, Brady Anderson, Derrick Turnbow - along with possible candidates, please see the Preliminary Discussion Thread. For the Loaiza/Anderson/Turnbow awards, we will only be awarding one player, rather than one player per league, so please vote accordingly. This is due to the limited number of candidates.

    Please feel free to post or PM any questions you may have. Thanks all, and I look forward to the voting!

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    Here are my votes


    AL MVP
    1 Mike Trout
    2 Robinson Cano
    3 Miguel Cabrera
    4 Justin Verlander
    5 Adrian Beltre
    6 Ben Zobrist
    7 Austin Jackson
    8 Prince Fielder
    9 Alex Gordon
    10 Edwin Encarnacion


    NL MVP
    1 Ryan Braun
    2 Buster Posey
    3 Andrew McCutchen
    4 David Wright
    5 Yadier Molina
    6 Chase Headley
    7 Joey Votto
    8 Clayton Kershaw
    9 Aramis Ramirez
    10 R.A. Dickey


    AL Cy Young
    1 Justin Verlander
    2 David Price
    3 Chris Sale
    4 Jered Weaver
    5 Felix Hernandez


    NL Cy Young
    1 Clayton Kershaw
    2 R.A. Dickey
    3 Johnny Cueto
    4 Gio Gonzalez
    5 Jordan Zimmerman

    AL Roy
    1 Mike Trout
    2 Yu Darvish
    3 Yoennis Cespedes

    NL Roy
    1 Bryce Harper
    2 Todd Frazier
    3 Wade Miley


    AL Silver Slugger
    C - Joe Mauer
    Carlos Santana
    AJ Pierzynzki

    1B - Prince Fielder
    Albert Pujols
    Paul Konerko

    2B - Robinson Cano
    Dustin Pedroia
    Ian Kinsler

    3B - Miguel Cabrera
    Adrian Beltre
    Alex Rodriguez

    SS - Derek Jeter
    Asdrubal Cabrera
    Elvis Andrus

    LF - Josh Hamilton
    Josh Willingham
    Alex Gordon

    CF - Mike Trout
    Austin Jackson
    Adam Jones

    RF - Ben Zobrist
    Shin Soo Choo
    Alex Rios

    DH - Edwin Encarnacion
    Billy Butler
    Adam Dunn



    NL Silver Slugger

    C - Buster Posey
    Yadier Molina
    Carlos Ruiz

    1B - Joey Votto
    Allen Craig
    Adam LaRoche

    2B - Aaron Hill
    Marco Scutaro
    Rickie Weeks

    3B - Chase Headley
    David Wright
    Aramis Ramirez

    SS - Ian Desmond
    Jose Reyes
    Rimmy Rollins

    LF - Ryan Braun
    Matt Holliday
    Carlos Gonzalez

    CF - Andrew McCutchen
    Dexter Fowler
    Bryce Harper

    RF - Giancarlo Stanton
    Carlos Beltran
    Jason Heyward

    AL GG

    C - Salvador Perez
    Alex Avila
    Matt Wieters

    1B - Mark Teixeria
    Albert Pujols
    Adrian Gonzalez

    2B - Robinson Cano
    Alexi Casilla
    Dustin Pedroia

    3B - Brett Lawrie
    Mike Moustakas
    Adrian Beltre

    SS - Brendan Ryan
    J.J. Hardy
    Yunel Escobar

    LF - Alex Gordon
    Desmond Jennings
    David Murphy

    CF - Mike Trout
    Denard Span
    Colby Rasmus

    RF - Josh Reddick
    Torii Hunter
    Ichiro Suzuki

    NL Gold Gloves

    C - Yadier Molina
    Ryan Hanigan
    Yasmani Grandal

    1B - Joey Votto
    Adam LaRoche
    Gaby Sanchez

    2B - Darwin Barney
    Brandon Phillips
    Mark Ellis

    3B - David Wright
    Luis Cruz
    Aramis Ramirez

    SS - Andrelton Simmons
    Clint Barnes
    Brandon Crawford

    LF - Martin Prado
    Ryan Braun
    Shane Victorino

    CF - Michael Bourn
    Bryce Harper
    Cameron Maybin

    RF - Jason Heyward
    Giancarlo Stanton
    Carlos Beltran

    Hank Aaron Award
    AL
    Miguel Cabrera
    Mike Trout
    Prince Fielder

    NL
    Ryan Braun
    Andrew McCutchen
    Buster Posey

    Relief Pitcher of the Year Award
    AL
    Jim Johnson
    Fernando Rodney
    Darren O’Day

    NL
    Craig Kimbrel
    Aroldis Chapman
    Steve Chisek

    Manager of the Year Award
    AL
    Buck Showalter
    Bob Melvin
    Joe Maddon

    NL
    Davey Johnson
    Mike Matheny
    Clint Hurdle

    General Manager of the Year Award
    AL
    Billy Beane
    Andrew Friedman
    Jon Daniels

    NL
    John Mozilak
    Rizzo
    Walt Jocketty

    Comeback Player of the Year Award
    AL
    Adam Dunn
    Joe Mauer
    Jake Peavy

    NL
    David Wright
    Aaron Hill
    Alfonso Soriano

    Breakout Position Player of the Year Award
    AL
    Edwin Encarnacion
    Austin Jackson
    Josh Reddick

    NL
    Andrew McCutchen
    Chase Headley
    Buster Posey

    Breakout Pitcher of the Year Award
    AL
    Chris Sale
    Jim Johnson
    Max Scherzer


    NL
    Lance Lynn
    Chris Capuano
    R.A. Dickey

    Estaban Loaiza Award
    Kyle Lohse

    Brady Anderson Award
    Justin Ruggiano

    Derrick Turnbow Award
    Fernando Rodney
    Last edited by Jeffy25; 10-17-2012 at 02:11 PM.

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    It's ridiculous to me that Kershaw and Trout are only 24 and 21 years old respectively.

    On topic, I'd like to light-heartedly challenge your choices Jeffy You stated that we should separate the breakouts from the Loaiza/Anderson/Turnbow awards, but you've got Encarnacion as both a breakout player (considered to maintain his success) and an Anderson Award winner (expected to fall off).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vixious View Post
    It's ridiculous to me that Kershaw and Trout are only 24 and 21 years old respectively.

    On topic, I'd like to light-heartedly challenge your choices Jeffy You stated that we should separate the breakouts from the Loaiza/Anderson/Turnbow awards, but you've got Encarnacion as both a breakout player (considered to maintain his success) and an Anderson Award winner (expected to fall off).
    Whoops, you nailed me


    I'll need to change that, thank you very much, and great catch.

    Looking forward to your votes as well.

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    You also mentioned that the breakout player of the year should be a non-rookie. Mike Trout is a rookie, good sir. I think that's two catches in as many posts

    Brady Anderson Award - Given to the position player who performed at a level completely unexpected for that year by most reasonable predictions. Candidates should be judged by both excellence in the given year and also by the unpredictability of said excellence.

    While I like Encarnacion at breakout player of the year because I can see him maintaining his success, I think the epitome of your "Brady Anderson Award" is Torii Hunter. He just had the best season of his life at 37 years of age, and will most likely not repeat that same level of production in 2013, thus perfectly fitting your criteria.

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    Actually you yourself made this post in response to someone nominating Trout as breakout player of the year:

    Rookies do not count

    As it says in the description

    "Given to a non-rookie in each league who"
    I couldn't fault you though, it's fairly late at night and a moderator's job comes with a lot of work

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    Billy Beane is baffled at your choice for manager of the year, Jeffy.

    80m vs 49m

    4 rookie SPs, "supposed to lose 100 games", converted several player positions, beat out the 2 time AL champs for the AL west championship in a 3 game of the season sweep.
    Last edited by agureghian; 10-17-2012 at 02:56 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vixious View Post
    Actually you yourself made this post in response to someone nominating Trout as breakout player of the year:



    I couldn't fault you though, it's fairly late at night and a moderator's job comes with a lot of work
    Well **** in a hat. Next time I'll just message you my vote so you can shift through it for corrections lol.

    Thanks, I'll revise my own ballot.

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    no sweat, it's clear that you've put a lot of work into this and it's only human to make a mistake here or there.

    Next time you guys run this thing (I guess in 2013), I'd also like to maybe see an award for the biggest disappointment that credits the player who fell completely short of expectations.

    Guys like Ricky Romero and Timmy Lincecum need a place on this list too!
    Last edited by Vixious; 10-17-2012 at 03:12 AM.

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    I can't believe you put a triple crown winner 3rd on your mvp votes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krush View Post
    I can't believe you put a triple crown winner 3rd on your mvp votes.
    Pretty easy considering he isn't the best all around player in the American League this season

    In fact, the other forum I am a part of, nobody has him above second, and most have him third.

    You have to completely ignore base running and defense to give Cabrera the MVP, and Cano has just as much argument for being the best all around player in the American League this season as Miggy does.

    Just to compare Cano and Miggy

    Runs Created
    Miggy - 137
    Cano - 123

    Defensive Runs Saved
    Miggy - -4
    Cano - 15

    Total Net Runs Earned
    Miggy - 133
    Cano - 139.8

    Add to that Cano beats Miggy in fWAR and rWAR.

    You have to completely ignore defense to vote Miggy for the MVP. He deserves the Hank Aaron Award, and the Silver Slugger at third base. But there isn't nearly a sufficient enough argument to place him as the MVP, Trout clearly deserves it over him, and there is plenty of argument for Cano to have earned it over him as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krush View Post
    I can't believe you put a triple crown winner 3rd on your mvp votes.
    Triple Crown doesn't mean MVP if that's what you're getting at.

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    I can.

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    I'm not doing the GG's and SS's, too much work. Also Jeffy it's Bob Melvin, Doug is the GM.

    AL MVP
    1 Mike Trout
    2 Miguel Cabrera
    3 Robinson Cano
    4 Adrian Beltre
    5 Justin Verlander
    6 Felix Hernandez
    7 Prince Fielder
    8 Austin Jackson
    9 David Price
    10 Edwin Encarnacion


    NL MVP
    1 Buster Posey
    2 Ryan Braun
    3 R.A. Dickey
    4 Andrew McCutchen
    5 David Wright
    6 Yadier Molina
    7 Clayton Kershaw
    8 Chase Headley
    9 Gio Gonzalez
    10 A.J. Ellis


    AL Cy Young
    1 Justin Verlander
    2 Felix Hernandez
    3 David Price
    4 Jered Weaver
    5 Chris Sale


    NL Cy Young
    1 R.A. Dickey
    2 Clayton Kershaw
    3 Gio Gonzalez
    4 Matt Cain
    5 Johnny Cueto

    AL Roy
    1 Mike Trout
    2 Yu Darvish
    3 Yoennis Cespedes

    NL Roy
    1 Bryce Harper
    2 Wade Miley
    3 Norichika Aoki

    Hank Aaron Award

    AL
    Miguel Cabrera
    Mike Trout
    Prince Fielder

    NL
    Ryan Braun
    Andrew McCutchen
    Buster Posey

    Relief Pitcher of the Year Award

    AL
    Fernando Rodney
    Jim Johnson
    Joe Nathan

    NL
    Craig Kimbrel
    Aroldis Chapman
    Kenley Jansen

    Manager of the Year Award

    AL
    Bob Melvin
    Buck Showalter
    Joe Maddon

    NL
    Davey Johnson
    Mike Matheny
    Bruce Bochy

    General Manager of the Year Award

    AL
    Billy Beane
    Dan Duquette
    Brian Cashman

    NL
    Mike Rizzo
    Brian Sabean
    Walt Jocketty

    Comeback Player of the Year Award

    AL
    Adam Dunn
    Jake Peavy
    Torii Hunter

    NL
    David Wright
    Adam Wainwright
    Alfonso Soriano

    Breakout Position Player of the Year Award

    AL
    Edwin Encarnacion
    Josh Reddick
    Kyle Seager

    NL
    Chase Headley
    A.J. Ellis
    Allen Craig

    Breakout Pitcher of the Year Award
    AL
    Max Scherzer
    Chris Sale
    Scott Diamond

    NL
    R.A. Dickey
    Jeff Samardzija
    Homer Bailey

    Estaban Loaiza Award
    Wei-Yin Chen

    Brady Anderson Award
    Ian Desmond

    Derrick Turnbow Award
    Fernando Rodney

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    PM your votes to yourself, Jeffy!!

    Would you trust a blind scout? Of course you wouldn't but that's what you do when you simply go by stats

    Only one person doesn't understand the ignore list. Predictable and cowardly

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