Lockout Discussion

[pebloemer]

Doesn't this feel like the place the NHL wanted to end up? I mean the starting point was 43% against the PA's current 57% share. Ultimately they figured they would meet in the middle at 50/50.

I found this interesting:

A source with knowledge of the offer told ESPNNewYork.com that the players' primary concern -- that their current contracts are honored -- is addressed in the proposal. To protect the contracts already in the books, there is a mechanism in place in the league's latest offer to defer payments based on future growth, according to the source

http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/85...elated-revenue

Does this mean contracts are rolled back; however if league growth continues at the pace the PA was advocating it would, roll backs would be paid back? Am I misunderstanding?

[j-bay]

Ted Starkey‏@TedStarkey
Should the two sides hammer out a deal for a Nov. 2 start, Bruins-Capitals would be your season opener at Verizon Center.

Going to be a great game. Playoff rematch, Adam Oates coaching for the 1st time, coaching one of his former teams, and then coaching against one of his former teams.

[Bullseyed]

I expect the players will counter with something more favorable for them, but this deal is fair and they should take it.

The one thing I haven't seen is what would be the cap number with this deal? How many teams are over? How will they get under the cap if they can't stash players in the AHL?

[Shaiza]

Details are the most important thing IMO.

[j-bay]

NHL‏@NHL

"We proposed a long-term contract. We think that's in everybody's interest. We think that's what our fans want." - Gary Bettman

[fingerbang]

why would the PA want players to lose games? that makes no sense

The players have ways to make money during the lockout, the owners don't.

[j-bay]

Adam Jahns‏@adamjahns

#Blackhawks NHLPA rep Steve Montador on NHL's offer: "Will the players accept it? I don't think so....50/50 can mean a lot of things."

[Bullseyed]

NHL‏@NHL

"We proposed a long-term contract. We think that's in everybody's interest. We think that's what our fans want." - Gary Bettman

Ironic given the deal would ban long term contracts.

[kevin13697]

The players have ways to make money during the lockout, the owners don't.

very few players have to chance to make millions overseas or even in local leagues, some are even playing for free
The owners pushing for the lockout are billionaires

[kevin13697]

Lets be honest here
43% was a ridiculous offer to make a 50/50 seem great as if the owners are trying to avoid missing a season.
I think this was a strategy from the beginning, I would be surprised if a lot of fans fell for this.

[j-bay]

nevermind

[j-bay]

So does would they get rid of the current long term contracts?

[kevin13697]

Details are the most important thing IMO.

i agree,
i think it was wrong for Bettman to release to this the public without details when he wanted to make negotiations private. Its an obvious attempt to improve their public imagine.

[pebloemer]

Lets be honest here
43% was a ridiculous offer to make a 50/50 seem great as if the owners are trying to avoid missing a season.
I think this was a strategy from the beginning, I would be surprised if a lot of fans fell for this.

It's not a coincidence that 43% is the same distance from a 50/50 split as 57%. It's all just negotiation tactics and I think the players forced the owners to put this proposal forward earlier in the process than they wanted. You're right, it was never about 43%.

[oak2455]

So does would they get rid of the current long term contracts?

I doubt it, I guess it would be going forward......I just hope this gets done ASAP