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View Poll Results: Which FA woulf you rather have?

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  • MARIAN HOSSA

    6 40.00%
  • BRIAN CAMPBELL

    9 60.00%
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    McNeill is a prospect that I haven't seen as much of as I would like. However, what I have seen of McNeill, doesn't scream top 6 to me. I am not as high on him as many other people are. I am actually higher on a couple of centers in the organization than McNeill - those two being Pirri (maybe a surprise for some) and Danault.

    I believe he is still in juniors and is there as an overage player (I think...), so it should be interesting to see what type of numbers he puts up this year. Numbers or not, I'm still just not really high on him being a top 6 player, or even a quality center in the NHL.

    Definitely a guy I hope I'm wrong on because a lot of people seem to be high on McNeill.

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    I think he can be a quality 3rd line NHL center someday, but I agree that I am not all that impressed with him as most seem to be. I agree with you on Pirri and Danault as well. The guy just needs to put up better numbers than he has in Junior.

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    McNeill was a guy that was considered a "steal" by just about every analyst when the Hawks selected him. Just haven't seen the growth that I would expect, who knows though. Would love to be wrong and have some nice center depth for years to come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack the Ripper View Post
    This was tweeted tonight by Tim Sassone. Yea, I know, take it for what it's worth coming from him. But concerning Beach...
    I'm a little late on replying to this, but here's an article that should help what I was saying before. http://blackhawks.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=638988

    I don't know how to quote from articles so I'll just post the stuff that stood out to me in the article.

    “Fortunately, I was able to make it back for the final 11 games last season,” said Beach. “It really allowed me to take hits and give me the feeling that it’s healed. I don’t have to worry about going into next season worrying about taking that first hit.”

    Before his injury, Beach was starting to find his stride in the American Hockey League. His comfort level on and off the ice last season far exceeded that of his rookie year.

    Through eight games, Beach had three goals and three assists to go along with 18 penalty minutes. His most effective game came on Oct. 9 in Peoria, where the winger drew a pair of penalties by getting under the skin of the Rivermen and then scored the game-winning goal with 8:32 left in regulation.


    That combination of agitator and contributor is not easy to find in professional hockey, and it’s why Beach’s skill set is coveted by the Blackhawks organization. Heading into the new campaign, Bowman expects an even greater evolution to the winger’s game.

    He did enjoy watching some of his close friends on the team, Andrew Shaw and Dylan Olsen, make their NHL debuts with Chicago and contribute to the big club last year. Seeing the success of his teammates, however, has made Beach hungrier to reach the top level.

    “Working with [Blackhawks Strength and Conditioning Coach] Paul Goodman this summer has been great for me. We’ve been doing a lot of work to improve my game. The organization has addressed several things I need to do to get better—getting stronger, faster, skating. Even if I start in Rockford, I want to work and work and work to get to that level and prove to the Blackhawks that I deserve another contract.“

    Instead of returning home to British Columbia this summer, Beach elected to stay in Chicago to train with Goodman and utilize the resources that the Blackhawks organization provides the players. The decision was made easier when IceHogs teammates and fellow Blackhawks prospects Joe Lavin and Ben Smith also decided to stay in the Windy City this summer. Smith, like Beach, is also coming off an injury, and the two have been able to push each other during workouts.

    This is the type of dedication that Beach has shown throughout his young professional career.


    “As guys mature, they start to realize that they need to do things differently than when they were a kid. He’s still a young guy, but he’s certainly grown up a little bit and I think that’s going to help him in the long run,” said Bowman.

    During his recuperation from the shoulder injury, Beach’s short-term goal is to go into Blackhawks training camp in September in the best shape possible and vie for a spot on the team’s regular-season roster.


    “It’s a process. It’s hard to short-circuit anything. I think it might be a blessing in disguise for him to have missed all that time, because he has developed some patience, he understands where he’s at, and he has a good grasp on his career path.”

    Some good stuff there. I think it shows that the Bowmans haven't given up on Beach. It also shows that he's got a great work ethic and is working hard to be the kind of player that people expected him to be when we drafted him. He's far from a sure thing, but it makes me feel a lot better about him knowing that he's got a great work ethic and wanted to come into training camp in the best shape possible.

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    Update:

    NHL OFFERS 50/50 SPLIT ON HRR IN PROPOSAL FOR NHLPA

    TORONTO -- Let the serious negotiations begin.

    After more than a month with no new offers being tabled in collective bargaining talks, the NHL breathed new life into the process Tuesday with a proposal that could kick-start some significant discussions.

    It calls for a 50-50 split of revenues between owners and players and includes a deferred salary plan designed to ensure that players would receive all the money they've been promised in existing contracts. On top of that, the deal was drawn up with an eye to starting a full 82-game regular season Nov. 2.

    "We have about nine or 10 days to get this all ... signed, sealed and delivered," said commissioner Gary Bettman, who called the proposed deal "long-term."

    A lot will need to be accomplished over that period. However, the unexpected proposal offered fans the first real hint of hope since the lockout began Sept. 15.

    The sides have met regularly since that time, but their discussions were largely limited to secondary issues. The league eventually grew tired of waiting for a new offer from the NHL Players' Association and decided to try to move things forward with a proposal of its own.

    Donald Fehr, the NHLPA's executive director, spent Tuesday afternoon reviewing the lengthy document and held an evening conference call with about 60 players. His initial reaction to the offer was that it could provide something to work with.

    "I would like to believe that it will be an excellent starting point and we can go forward and see if there is a deal to be made," said Fehr.

    The new offer was greeted with cautious optimism by locked-out players who have had to secure their own ice time to stay in shape during the lockout. Following an informal skate in Vancouver on Tuesday, Canucks goaltender Cory Schneider expressed hope that labour peace could finally be on the horizon.

    "Both sides were waiting for somebody to make the next move," said Schneider. "For them to make a move towards us, it at least signals that they are serious about negotiating and getting started. Up until this point, we weren't fully convinced of that. This is obviously a good step towards that."

    It wasn't immediately clear how willing the league is to negotiate off its latest offer. The NHL's previous proposal called for the players' revenue share to fall to 47 per cent and tabled a number of restrictive rules governing contracts.

    According to a source, the only one that remains in Tuesday's proposal is a maximum contract length of five years. The new offer also calls for unrestricted free agency to come into effect at age 28 or after eight years of service -- one year later than the last CBA -- and keeps entry-level deals at three years.

    Neither side had made a formal proposal since Sept. 12, and this one came with a heightened sense of urgency from Bettman. The league figures Nov. 2 is the latest it could start a condensed 82-game regular season that would see the Stanley Cup awarded before the end of June.

    "If we didn't do it now, if we didn't put an offer on the table that we thought was fair and could get us playing hockey ... then it probably wasn't going to happen for a while," said Bettman. "It's done in the spirit of getting a full season in."

    If the union were to accept the 50-50 split, players would take a financial hit. Based on last year's league-wide revenues of US$3.3 billion, they would be giving up $231 million annually if their share of that money drops by seven per cent.

    However, it might be a concession they're willing to make as part of a larger deal.

    "To Bettman, the percentage is the biggest part," said Schneider. "To us, it's one of the few big parts. Contracting and revenue-sharing are other issues for us. But (the percentage) is a hurdle that has to be overcome at some point. So it's good that we're heading in the right direction."

    The NHL's third lockout in 18 years has lasted 31 days and already forced the league to push the season back two weeks from its scheduled start of Oct. 11. Deputy commissioner Bill Daly estimated last week that it had cost about US$250 million in lost revenue.

    The new league offer came one day after the sports blog Deadspin reported the NHL had hired market research firm Luntz Global to conduct a focus group to help shape its message during the lockout. The company's founder, Frank Luntz, said in a statement that he was trying to gauge how fans felt about the work stoppage.

    The best public relations for both sides would come from striking a deal and with a new proposal on the table, there is some optimism that could be coming sooner than later.

    "What our hope is is that after we review this that there will be a feeling on the players' side that this is a proposal from which we can negotiate and try and reach a conclusion," said Fehr.
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    ^^^ Everything I read seems to think a deal gets done in the next 10 days because of this offer.

    Great move by the NHL...if the players turn this down (Even though the fans don't know the full details) it makes Fehr and the players look like the bad guys. Bettman would actually be looking pretty good for once.

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    ^^^ All good stuff and I'm glad to hear it. Could be that it just took him longer to become a pro and understand the ways of a pro. Good to hear that he stayed in Chicago, shows some dedication. If he can improve on his skating, and not take dumb penalties, he would be exactly what the Blackhawks are looking for.

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    fingers crossed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boom! View Post
    ^^^ All good stuff and I'm glad to hear it. Could be that it just took him longer to become a pro and understand the ways of a pro. Good to hear that he stayed in Chicago, shows some dedication. If he can improve on his skating, and not take dumb penalties, he would be exactly what the Blackhawks are looking for.
    Yeah, it sounds like he got a bit stronger too, which I think would really help him. Better skating plus added strength= a lot better chance of having a future with this team.

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    Some interesting prospect news at least:

    http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/John-...ects/128/47066

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    was optimistic when the news about the deal broke, from listening to what has been reported about Fehr saying to the players and then Toews comments to the press (was on Kuc's twitter -- dont remember exact wording, but that the deal was a PR move to get the public opinion against the players, still not a fair deal) I'm not getting excited yet. I want there to be hockey, but I still think we are awhile away from an agreement.
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    Champs for Charity Game

    In case you haven't heard, some current and former Blackhawks along with a mix of current NHL'ers including Al Montoya and Ryan Suter will be hosting a charity hockey game at the Allstate Arena next Friday, October 26th.

    The event was organized by Adam Burish and his agent. Dustin Byfuglien has not been confirmed yet, but they're confident they'll talk him into it. Antti Niemi will not make the trip from Europe to play.

    Tickets range from $10-60 and all proceeds go to charity. This is an awesome display of gratitude by our current and former Hawks and a great chance to take the family out to see them without dropping a lot of cash.

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    Tell Byfuglien that there will be free cheeseburgers and beer...he'll show up.

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    not promising...
    Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun
    Bettman confirms NHLPA made three counter proposals. Says none of them "even began to approach 50-50." Not encouraged

    Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger
    Bettman calls todays meeting and 3 PA proposals a "step backwards.".

    Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger
    Bettman says the league and union are not speaking the same language. Concerned by lack of progress

    Dan Rosen ‏@drosennhl
    Bettman says it is clear they are not speaking the same language. He says he thinks today was a step backwards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boom! View Post
    Tell Byfuglien that there will be free cheeseburgers and beer...he'll show up out of shape and have his picture taken which will then be ridiculed for weeks.
    Corrected

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