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    Yadier Molina vs. Ivan Rodriguez

    Who you got?


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    Career wise? Talent Wise? If it's career wise it's gotta be Ivan, but if it's what I think it'll be when it's all said and done it might just be Yadi.

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    Prime vs. Prime is what I was thinking as it's the only logical comparison, Yadier still had numerous years left in his career so it'd be unfair to compare their careers.

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    Pudge
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    Molina is going to have to continue to hit like he has the last two years for like 12 more years to have a chance to beat Pudge

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    Pudgy

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    LOL Pudge. Pudge was a bat impact for a catcher at age 22. Molina's first true bat break out year was last year at age 29. It's really not close although Molina is coming off a great season however I personally think he peaked. He will prob. put up good numbers but, I don't think it's getting much better from 30 on for Yadi.
    Last edited by northsider; 10-15-2012 at 04:35 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by northsider View Post
    LOL Pudge. Pudge was a bat impact for a catcher at age 22. Molina's first true bat break out year was last year at age 29. It's really not close although Molina is coming off a great season however I personally think he peaked. He will prob. put up good numbers but, I don't think it's getting much better from 30 on for Yadi.
    Pudge never had a wRC+ of over 120 until '99 when he was 27.

    Molina didn't do it until last year, age 28.

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    Ivan Rodriguez easily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by northsider View Post
    LOL Pudge. Pudge was a bat impact for a catcher at age 22. Molina's first true bat break out year was last year at age 29. It's really not close although Molina is coming off a great season however I personally think he peaked. He will prob. put up good numbers but, I don't think it's getting much better from 30 on for Yadi.
    wOBA and wRC+ by age season

    Age 21
    Pudge - .319, 93
    Molina - .297, 77

    Age 22
    Pudge - .364, 111
    Molina - .285, 71

    Age 23
    Pudge - .338, 94
    Molina - .263, 54

    Age 24
    Pudge - .350, 97
    Molina - .313, 86

    Age 25
    Pudge - .365, 114
    Molina - .326, 97

    Age 26
    Pudge - .375, 119
    Molina - .336, 106

    Age 27
    Pudge - .388, 125
    Molina - .300, 84

    Age 28
    Pudge - .428, 148
    Molina - .353, 125

    Age 29
    Pudge - .375, 125
    Molina - .375, 139

    It is worth noting two things. Pudge played in a hitters paradise most of his career, while Molina has been in a mostly neutral park.

    And it's worth noting that Molina is the better defensive catcher, even with Pudge possibly being one of the best of all time.

    The age 29 season that Molina just turned in is his best of his career offensively, and the first that beats out a Pudge season.


    However, for Molina to be better than Pudge the rest of their careers offensively at least, should be fairly easy.

    Pudge from his age 30 season until retirement:
    .288/.325/.438 - 100 OPS+

    While that might be more power than Molina has, Molina should be able to match that 100 OPS+ depending on his decline of course.

    4648 PA of course.

    Molina likely will not go down as a better hitter, but Molina could potentially retire as the best defensive catcher of all time. It's very possible.

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    I don't think the potential 3 world series titles as catcher would hurt his legacy either.

    Molina will be remembered for years.

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    So like I said, Pudge.

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    YM > Pudge


    6/27/09: “We expect [Rondo] to play by the rules and be a leader as a point guard. We need him to be more of a leader,” Ainge said. “There were just a couple situations where he was late this year, I don’t know if he was sitting in his car, but showed up late and the rest of the team was there. We have team rules and you have to be on time. He was fined for being late, he said he was stuck in traffic, and it’s just unacceptable.”

    Some jerks never learn.....

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    I-Rod.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bagwell368 View Post
    YM > Pudge
    Really?

    Could you elaborate?

    Even as a Cards fan, I have to take Pudge

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