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  1. #391
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vintage View Post
    If the Mets sign Miguel Olivo and roll into 2013 with Thole and Olivo behind the dish, Im done with the Front Office.

    They are on their last straw and this is Alderson's last Offseason to prove to me he's more than a puppet.

    Let's see some real talent (championship caliber) like he promised behind the dish.

    Go out and make a big trade, make a splash, stop with this mediocre garbage.
    You're looking forward to the wrong offseason, nothing of great significance will happen till next offseason when they clear considerable payroll.

    These are the type of moves they have to look into sadly until Bay and Santana are off the books.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YoungStuna28 View Post
    Playing half of your games there still ****s with you no matter what the numbers say.

    He's still not that good though.
    I wasn't arguing with you.

    Was just further solidifying your point.

    I dont want Olivo either lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vintage View Post
    We'd be using him against lefties and last year he hit .221 against them. (40 strikeouts in 140 ABs)

    Fantastic..
    Yeah he's garbage aside from the occasional home run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by metswon69 View Post
    You're looking forward to the wrong offseason, nothing of great significance will happen till next offseason when they clear considerable payroll.

    These are the type of moves they have to look into sadly until Bay and Santana are off the books.
    If payroll is a detriment go out and make a trade then.

    Bring in a Hank Conger or Tim Federowicz both are young catchers from LA stuck behind other options. (Ellis, Ianetta)

    Kick the tires on Tony Cruz from St. Louis, Martin Maldonado from Milwaukee, or Devin Mesoraco from the Reds. All young guys with upside who need a chance to play but are stuck behind (Molina, Lucroy, and Hanigan)

    Wasting money on Olivo (35) does nothing. And sadly, its the only thing this front office will consider because they arent creative.
    Last edited by Vintage; 10-28-2012 at 04:09 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vintage View Post
    If payroll is a detriment go out and make a trade then.

    Bring in a Hank Conger or Tim Federowicz from LA.

    Kick the tires on Tony Cruz from St. Louis, Martin Maldonado from Milwaukee, or Devin Mesoraco from the Reds.

    Wasting money on Olivo does nothing. And sadly, its the only thing this front office will consider because they arent creative.
    Well we'll have to see what they do, they have quite a while to assemble a roster.

    It's gonna most likely be by trade with limited payroll flexibility but that same limited payroll flexibility also hurts in regards to making trades.

    They won't be able to add anyone who makes significant money (IE Chris Young who they couldn't afford, that's why they most likely didn't trade for him).

    There is a reason why the guys you mentioned have had limited if not zero major league time, i don't want to change faces for the sake of changing faces either.
    Last edited by metswon69; 10-28-2012 at 04:48 PM.

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    Take anything Sherman says with a grain of salt too btw

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    Well they're all in the business of speculating.

    Olivo isn't one of his smartest suggestions but Cabrera still remains an interesting option.
    Last edited by metswon69; 10-29-2012 at 02:49 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by metswon69 View Post
    Well they're all in the business in speculating.

    Olivo isn't one of his smartest suggestions but Cabrera still remains an interesting option.
    Soto would be a better option than Olivo.

    Cabrera would be a great move.

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    Congratulations San Francisco Giants!

    Well-deserved. Twice in three years.

    In these days of parity that's a dynasty.......

    And Angel Pagan found a home.......

    Just goes to show you despite trading one of their best prospects, Zack Wheeler for rental Carlos Beltran it didn't stop them one iota......that's great management from the top down.

    The Giants are what you call the model franchise we should learn from.......
    We Need More Players Like Keith!!!!!


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    I'm happy, anything that makes Dodger lovin' Fredo unhappy makes me happy.

    The Giants also have IMO the best park in baseball.

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    Hoping that huricane Sandy (A) rips this team apart and starts his rebuilding process. Hey we might be able to get FEMA money for building a new outfield!
    " You seek Yoda!

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    Sabean who has taken a lot of heat from many guys including me has won 2 WS rings, while a guy like Beane who gets praised left and right has won none.

    Old school GM vs New School GM.

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    Hey guys I just saw this article from 2004 offseason. I thought it was really interesting:http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/sports/features/n_10297/

    It basically predicted 2006-2008 and it was interesting. The team now should follow a similar method haha. Enjoy

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    BTW Jeremy Affeldt sign for the cheap price of 18 million over 3 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sick Of It All View Post
    BTW Jeremy Affeldt sign for the cheap price of 18 million over 3 years.
    Spells doomsday for the Mets in a market where a lefty specialist (albeit a very good one but predominantly in his career a lefty specialist nonetheless) is getting 6 million dollars a year.
    Last edited by metswon69; 11-12-2012 at 10:16 PM.

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