The everything A-Rod Thread

[nyjflightboy#10]

A-Rod is just a shell of his former self. He seems to be on a rapid decline. He can't perform in the clutch. He can't stay healthy. And more sooner than later he probably wont be able to play third base.

So the Yankees are on the hook for 5 more season and $164 million dollars. Now I understand the initial thought that they thought they were going to get all this production and milestones out of him. And at the time he just had come off an MVP season and the best of his Yankee career. And from what I remember there were no signs we was on the decline.

But it wasn't even the amount of money as much as it was the length. How to you justify paying a guy $20 plus Mill until he is 42? And then give Derek Jeter, their captain, a true Yankee, a true professional a 3 year-$51 Mill contract? Which is a smarter decision but kind of a slap in the face of Jeter.

So is A-Rod's contract the worst and, also, what should they do when Jeter's deal expires?

[Texas Holders]

Vernon Wells.

[R. Johnson#3]

Vernon Wells.

$20 mil to ride the pine.

[metswon69]

The fact that the Yankees owe him at least another 113 million dollars, yeah its a terrible contract.

I would still say Jason Bay because although the Mets only gave him 66 million almost every dime of that was a waste of money.

He's hit 26 home runs in 3 years with the team (less than 9 a season), for a guy who was perennial 25-30 home run hitter and a 100 rbi type hitter.

[nyjflightboy#10]

The fact that the Yankees owe him at least another 113 million dollars, yeah its a terrible contract.

I would still say Jason Bay is one of the worst contracts in baseball, am just happy the Mets only gave him 4 years.

lol Yeah as Mets fans we know a thing or two about bad contracts. But it's really the fact they are paying him until he is 42 and with 5 years left Girardi has already lost faith in him.

But A-Rod has done more on the bench to justify his contract than Bay has ever done on the field during his Met tenure.

[metswon69]

But A-Rod has done more on the bench to justify his contract than Bay has ever done on the field during his Met tenure.

Yep at least A-Rod had one 6.5 rWAR season and 3 more close to 4 rWAR seasons.

Jason Bay's cumulative rWAR in 3 seasons with the Mets is 1.1 (thats a .37 rWAR average in 3 years lol)

[metswon69]

But really they knew this going in.

They re-upped in 08' for another 10 years at a position where players decline rapidly.

Even with splitting time at DH, they had to know that 4-5 years into that contract was gonna start to burn them.

[t_money25]

Carl Pavano

[Fly]

Jason Bay & Vernon Wells' contracts are worse, but his is right up there. He's had some good years under the contract but that's just way too much ****ing money.

[IceMan360]

Anytime you give a player over 30 a 10 year contract its gonna end up being a bad deal towards the end. We'll be having the same convo with pujols in acouple years

[Im_in_Mia_bish]

well it's def between him and pavano. lol

[Im_in_Mia_bish]

i think they didnt mind giving him a 10 year contrct because they felt his career would be just like bonds, where he was still a HR threat through his late 30s, and obv this was before the roids admission lol

[ciaban]

A-Rod is just a shell of his former self. He seems to be on a rapid decline. He can't perform in the clutch. He can't stay healthy. And more sooner than later he probably wont be able to play third base.

So the Yankees are on the hook for 5 more season and $164 million dollars. Now I understand the initial thought that they thought they were going to get all this production and milestones out of him. And at the time he just had come off an MVP season and the best of his Yankee career. And from what I remember there were no signs we was on the decline.

But it wasn't even the amount of money as much as it was the length. How to you justify paying a guy $20 plus Mill until he is 42? And then give Derek Jeter, their captain, a true Yankee, a true professional a 3 year-$51 Mill contract? Which is a smarter decision but kind of a slap in the face of Jeter.

So is A-Rod's contract the worst and, also, what should they do when Jeter's deal expires?

they gave this deal to jeter for the opposite reason of A-Rod,

And at the time he just had come off an MVP season and the best of his Yankee career.

when jeter hit free agency he was coming off one of his worst years as a yankee, the years before he took 2nd for mvp, had he renegotiated his contract then he would be a richer man than he is today.

[SenorGato]

Hes not even the worst Yankee contract (Giambi) or even current Yankee contract (Teixeira). They are probably well aware they did not lock up ARods prime years when they signed him.

[Nymfan87]

Not even close. He's still a reasonably productive player, and a bad contract on the Yankees is not nearly the same as a bad contract on another team. It's not crippling them financially.