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Just to update this a bit, with the stats from the Denver game, McCourty had 5 targets and allowed 4 receptions for 54 yards (average of 10.8). He also allowed a TD. On the plus side, he was there to make the tackle when he was beat, allowing only 1 YAC.
With that said, all but 2 of his yards (52) came when Demaryius Thomas was lined up against him. Thomas went 3 for 3 with 52 yards against McCourty. So I suppose a little discouraging he wasn't able to hold up vs. Thomas but then no one is claiming McCourty to be a shutdown corner and with a physical specimen like Thomas, McCourty is going to have his tough times. Not the greatest game for him yesterday but it's only 1 game and on the season, his numbers remain strong overall. He'll bounce back I'm sure. Should have a good week against Seattle.
If anyone is curious, the remaining 131 yards that Thomas got were against Moore. 40 of those came on YAC and his average per reception was 32.8. So yeah, Moore got abused by Thomas (I think we all saw that) and that is exactly why he should not be a starting corner.
As for Arrington, his week wasn't too bad. As usual, the QB completed everything in his direction (3 for 3) but unlike prior games, the receivers didn't accumulate a ton of yards against Arrington (only 18). He did give up a TD though.
Finally, Dennard was targeted 5 times and didn't allow a single reception with 2 passes defensed. Very strong opening to his career. I hope that earns him some more playing time (though like anyone else, he'll have to prove it in practice). I'd like to see him and Dowling hopefully eventually take over that #2 and 3 corner spot. I don't think Arrington will ever be anymore then what he is now, which is a guy who can make the tackle but will always allow the pass to be completed to his side with a decent amount of yards coming on it. Speaking of Dowling, had a very quite week- allowing 1 reception on 1 target for 7 yards. He was only out there for 10 snaps however. Dennard was out there for 22 snaps (all in pass coverage).
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I like what I've seen from Tavon Wilson. He can take over for Chung next year alongside Gregory (who is mediocre). Wilson has a nose for the ball.
^ to add to Bags reply, I agree it is a bit of a weighing your options type of thing with Mccourty at S. Yes , S is our biggest weakness , so it's kind of like: Does him playing safety improve safetyplay more than what gets detracted from the cb play. Or does the scheme that we are able to run with him at safety allow us to take enough pressure off the corners to make up for the loss of talent there. This can all change with the type of sceme the opposing offense is running, and the talent of their various receivers and tight ends. Also the other teams running game plays a factor as well. Can we stop the run with 7 ? Or do we need a SS type player to help out? These are all questions what will obviously fluctuate in there answers from week to week. All I was saying is that I wouldn't mind, if BB thinks it helps, to see McCourty at Safety for certain plays. Obviously he has felt that way in the past.
Anyone wanna tell me how good McCourty is today?
The best corner we have
The safety play is unbearable. Deep ball completions usually mean terrible safety play!
The Seahawks did a good job changing their qbs launch point, moving pockets away.from Jones. We did a terrible job adjusting
Down on a knee,
Getting ready to SUCK!!
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McCourty isn't the problem. He's our one bright spot for Pete's sake!
Five rounds went by in the 2000 draft... After 198 other players had been chosen, the Patriots drafted him in the sixth round.
Owner Robert Kraft recalls the night he was leaving the old Foxboro Stadium when he saw "this skinny beanpole" carrying a pizza. "He comes up and says, 'Mr. Kraft, I'm Tom Brady.' I said, 'I know who you are, you're our sixth-round draft choice from Michigan.' "And he looked me right in the eye and he said, 'and I'm the best decision this organization has ever made.' "
I have two things I didn't like in that game.
Brady was incredibly inaccurate - if he had been on it would have been 45-55 for 550 yards - that Seattle D against the pass blows.
The Pats obviously game planned to let the kid beat them deep- if he could. Well after the 3rd time, they should have changed it up, or shoved an extra CB back there - a 4-2-5 with 4 CB's. Chung should have not been on the field the last 10 minutes of the game. Yeah, he's a great hitter on RB's coming through the line that have already been hit and slowed down. It's a whole other thing with a WR flashing past him. It looks like he's using a walker for goodness sakes. I'd as soon give the keys at S to Ras-I and take my chances in passing situations.
This team is better than last years 13-3, they have a chance to prove it by going 6-0 or worst case 5-1 the next 6 games. 6-0 gives them 9-3, with a valid shot at a 3-1 wrap up.
Bill doesn't have many draft chips to use, and his form of arrogance says he can turn almost anyone into a S. He's got until 10/30 to make a deal. His Safties are crap. There is nobody that is FA that can walk and chew gum at the same time. Other teams will attack away. It's either Ras-I (or another DB) to S or he makes a deal. The clock is ticking on the franchise player. If they can get a good (not great) S for a 4th and a 5th the following year, he ought to think about it.
Last edited by bagwell368; 10-16-2012 at 12:11 PM.
^ I agree with trying to deal for a safety. The games have been so close that a few plays could have equated to Patriots wins. If we had a better coverage safety, some of the late TD's and long passes that have beat us could have been avoided.
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