I didnt say we would get both. I said if we were gonna go after to players they are much better than Choo and Cabrera?
And my trade ideas? Mine included our #2 and 3 specs, a mid rotation starter and a couple more pieces. You wanted a top SS with good offense and great D, and a solid hitter for a mid rotation starter, defense only SS and a bullpen arm. Cmon dude.
I dont see whats so bad about Paxton Vargas and Smoak+ for butler either like you are insinuating. Much better than your suggestion.