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  1. #811
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    You have no idea how excited I am right now.


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    Quote Originally Posted by drew_ellis_23 View Post
    I wouldnt trade Montero or Smoak. I wouldnt trade for Butler unless Montero is going to be our everyday catcher. And even then, Zunino is close to being ready. I just don't get it. I like Butler but don't see a fit. Unless he is cheap cause he is not enough of a upgrade over Smoak in my opinion. Not enough to give up one of the big 3 for sure.
    First of all nobody would want smoak in a trade, I'm pretty sure the organization is on the fence about giving up on him.

    I believe in montero as a hitter, but the fact we have a catcher of the future, he doesn't play another position, 1b is an option but we will have to develop him... at DH I think most teams will go the FA budget approach rather than developing a key player there with all the interleague games. Montero just makes things a cluster so if we traded him and got value for him I wouldn't be upset, if we keep him that's fine too as I'm a believer.

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    I think we know for sure that if the org. is serious about Butler, then they either think Montero can play 1st, or are prepared to trade him. They think about things like this, despite what we believe some times.
    You have no idea how excited I am right now.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jej View Post
    yeah that was a good one. and Swish will cost a ton less

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    Id go 5/82 on Swisher way before Id go 5/120 for Hamilton. Both are a slight overpay, but I think Swisher's overpay is smaller, nevermind the lower risk and everything else.

    If they gap in their contracts closes tho, and Swisher gets more into the 5/90 range, then the edge may go to Hamilton.
    You have no idea how excited I am right now.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jej View Post
    would you go Erasmo, Vargas and Smoak for Butler and Felipe Paulino?

    How sweet would Swisher/Hamilton and Butler be?
    I would, and that would be sick.

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    Ackley
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    Mmmmmm.
    You have no idea how excited I am right now.


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    FWIW, Bill James has Montero at .285 with and .800+ OPS and 22 HR.

    I think he's right.
    I'm In.



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    Id like to see his accuracy from past years. Not to doubt him, just curious. Also, how does he predict them?

    He has Upton at 25 hr, .368 wOBA, .850+ OPS

    Hamilton at 25 HR, .896 OPS, .376 wOBA.
    You have no idea how excited I am right now.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Iansnightout View Post
    FWIW, Bill James has Montero at .285 with and .800+ OPS and 22 HR.

    I think he's right.
    i can easily see that. and better the season after that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iansnightout View Post
    FWIW, Bill James has Montero at .285 with and .800+ OPS and 22 HR.

    I think he's right.


    Assuming the fence change doesn't affect air flow that much, it looks like the fence move might have helped Montero out on 2 batted balls.

    My worry, is that most of his hits occur between 200' and 300', from LF to CF. The area where the fences are being moved into, he has almost nothing. Seems to me more of his hits will simply be turned into outs.

    Unless he can utilize RF better and develop more power, I'm doubtful.

    EDIT: That didn't work, just go here

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    It's not the fences. It's him improving.
    You have no idea how excited I am right now.


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    his power is more opposite field then pull anyway. so with more improvements he can take advantage of the short RF porch

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    Quote Originally Posted by A.Mopp View Post
    his power is more opposite field then pull anyway. so with more improvements he can take advantage of the short RF porch
    He was at his worst, offensively, when he went the other way. He'll need to improve a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jej View Post
    would you go Erasmo, Vargas and Smoak for Butler and Felipe Paulino?

    How sweet would Swisher/Hamilton and Butler be?
    Your trade ideas are brutal.

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