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  1. #796
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    Wonder if JZ has something big brewing this off season and Montero, is part of it. I bet Butler is his replacement, at the DH spot.

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    ugh if we trade one of the big three for Butler id be pretty disappointed

    i just dont think he is worth one of them

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    ^ agree but at the same time it might be the best we can do.

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    Mauer+ sure. The other 3 not worth it imo, he is under a good amount of team control though

    its just a lot for a DH only to me

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    Butler is one of my favorites, but bringing him in means giving up on/trading one of Smoak and Montero, and I'm not ready to do that.

    I don't want to see Montero traded, but it could happen if we get Butler. Trading him could come back to haunt us, bad.

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    Yep. I agree Jej. We cannot give up on Montero.

    he has an MVP ceiling.
    I'm In.



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    Thumbs down

    Quote Originally Posted by Seattle4Ever View Post
    Totally ignored my post
    Me? Which one?

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    I don't wanna trade montero either.

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    I'd go Maurer or Erasmo and Smoak (plus a mid level guy if needed), but not feeling one of the big 3. If I'm gonna give up Paxton and Smoak, I want Butler and another solid spec.

    If all this is true, either they think Montero can handle 1st, or they plan on trading him. And the only person I would consider trading him for is Stanton and guys like that, and I don't see that happening

    I would do Paxton and Montero for Butler and Myers tho.

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    I wouldnt trade Montero or Smoak. I wouldnt trade for Butler unless Montero is going to be our everyday catcher. And even then, Zunino is close to being ready. I just don't get it. I like Butler but don't see a fit. Unless he is cheap cause he is not enough of a upgrade over Smoak in my opinion. Not enough to give up one of the big 3 for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drew_ellis_23 View Post
    I wouldnt trade Montero or Smoak. I wouldnt trade for Butler unless Montero is going to be our everyday catcher. And even then, Zunino is close to being ready. I just don't get it. I like Butler but don't see a fit. Unless he is cheap cause he is not enough of a upgrade over Smoak in my opinion. Not enough to give up one of the big 3 for sure.
    .313/.373/.510 --.377wOBA -- 140 wRC+ -- 29 HR isnt an upgrade over
    .217/.290/.364 -- .288 wOBA -- 85 wRC+ and 19 HR?

    I dont wanna give up on him yet either, but theres no way Smoak gets anywhere near that. Maybe .320 wOBA, 115 wRC+, but even thats unrealistic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jej View Post
    .313/.373/.510 --.377wOBA -- 140 wRC+ -- 29 HR isnt an upgrade over
    .217/.290/.364 -- .288 wOBA -- 85 wRC+ and 19 HR?

    I dont wanna give up on him yet either, but theres no way Smoak gets anywhere near that. Maybe .320 wOBA, 115 wRC+, but even thats unrealistic.
    Is that enough of a upgrade to deal one of our big three arms? That is what I am saying. Smoak will hit 30 homers this year. I will bet money on it. We need OF upgrades. Our OF is ******.

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    I agree we need upgrade in the outfield. But to say Butler isnt an upgrade is ridiculous. I have some faith in Smoak, but I dont think its a guarantee that he improves.

    I said before I dont really want to give up one of the Big 3. But Id go Erasmo or Maurer all day

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    Quote Originally Posted by jej View Post
    I agree we need upgrade in the outfield. But to say Butler isnt an upgrade is ridiculous. I have some faith in Smoak, but I dont think its a guarantee that he improves.

    I said before I dont really want to give up one of the Big 3. But Id go Erasmo or Maurer all day
    Never said he wasnt a upgrade over Smoak, just dont think he is enough. But if we can get him for Erasmo and some change I am all for that. Hell give them Vargas. Gives us a bat and sheds some payroll to spend on Grienke.

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    would you go Erasmo, Vargas and Smoak for Butler and Felipe Paulino?

    How sweet would Swisher/Hamilton and Butler be?

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