He's going to command way too much money and years for what he is.
Signing him would be a major mistake.
I wonder what the Twins want for Willingham? Power RH bat we need to hit 5-6th.
I said Lester "MAYBE gets traded" after some of these kids establish themselves and he becomes expendable. They may just let him walk after 2014, which is likely the case.
Am I lobbying to trade Lester? Nope.
Bags "The King of twisting words" strikes again.
We have a lot of money to spend, but looking at the next two years of free agents there isn't a whole lot of quality players available. Barring some kind of an Orioles-like run next year, I don't see us being competitive until at least 2014. There isn't a quick fix out there and I think our clubhouse issues are too great to be solved by next year.
As you can see, there's some difference makers out there, but probably not enough to turn a 93 loss team in to a 93 win team without gambling on large contracts for players with warts.
So at some point will we be forced to make a trade, will we go back to giving out inflated contracts for players who probably won't earn them, or will we just punt to 2015 and hope that Kershaw and Verlander remain free agents?
Of coarse a trade will probably be made. I am just hoping we don't give away the farm, for a piece that isn't justifieable. Josh Johnson is an interesting discussion. I am not sure what it would take, but I can see us making a run at him.
I don't think any team is going to holdout, to see if Verlander & Kershaw hit the open market. That simply isn't going to happen.
It wouldn't just be a matter of holding out for those two starters. It would also be an issue of addressing clubhouse issues, waiting to see what we have in Lavarnway, Middlebrooks, Bogaerts, Bradley, Kalish, Iglesias, Barnes, Cecchini and perhaps even stockpiling additional prospects to make a trade for a Felix Hernandez type.
Some talk in Ny about the Sox being a good home for Ike Davis. Davis has some sickness for half the season so the average is very likely not accurate. Very good glove and hit 30 HR. Why would the Mets move him? The Mets are the Jets and it likely makes sense to them.
re; Tim Tebow
Originally Posted by j11430
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As of now, we need a LF, RF, 1B, DH, and a SP. We will probably fill one of those needs via trade. Now we will probably Re-sign Ross to fill RF, and Ortiz to fill DH. We are presumabely down to filling LF, 1B, and SP. If we can get Justin Upton & Josh Johnson without giving up too much, we may be able to compete for 90 wins. That still will not be enough to make the play-offs. As much as I want to compete, the reality of the situation always sets in.
In the end the Red Sox will make a few small moves to make it seem like they are trying to compete. The fans will be happy to win 90 games instead of 69, and we have a core of players to move forward into 2014 and beyond.
"twisting words" has nothing to do with my motivation, sir, however you did provide me with a springboard to make my points on Lester.
I don't see how Justin Upton or Josh Johnson would address our many issues. I think we'll simply need to be patient, and try to build the team correctly, rather than doing the rash free agent signings that got us in to such trouble the last few years.
Goals for 2013:
#1. Do not weaken the future by trading away the top 8 specs (projectable) for any reason. Do deal kids that are deemed not able to make it such as Iglesias.
#2. Accept that no matter what we do, we can't win the WS
#3. Accept our chances of making the playoffs are less than 50/50
#4. Finish off dealing the cancers from the team no later than opening day 2014.
#5. Get a coaching staff that has an emphasis on taking pitches and high OBP, and throwing strikes. Get a top flight workout regimen for each player.
#6. Avoid big $ FA deals.
Following these rules puts us in much better chance to repeat making the playoff in 2015-2016. For one thing we won't be tossing big bucks away on guys like Napoli that are liable to be toast by 2015-2016.
Alex Gordon got an extension early this year, and wont be a FA until 2016. Just so you guys know.
Trading Lester makes no sense to me after his down year. It makes way more sense to trade Buchholz given the value his contract alone gives him. I doubt either gets traded though.
When did I ever present my logic in a way that the Sox need to move off of Lester? Did I suggest they move him? No.
And yes, you are twisting words, you're the master of it.