I can't do anything right
I can't do anything right
I may be wrong but I don't think Xander Bogaerts is gonna be anything special. I say trade him and a pitcher or 2 for Tulowitski if everyone thinks Bogaerts is so great. Would that be an acceptable return for you guys than Tulo would be a stud guaranteed who knows what Bogaerts will do.
Wow, I came to this thread to have a discussion about a possible deal with Kansas City, thinking our two teams might match up for something. And then I see...that....whatever that is.
Listen, their owner said they were only one or two mid-rotation starters away from competing in the Division. What about Doubront and a prospect for Wil Myers? I don't know if that's even possible, but Doubront is young, left-handed, cost-controlled, and throws hard, and if we don't keep them ourselves I'd hope for a big return for him.
I don't see this as anything realistic from either side. You're looking at this as more of a one-sided trade from the Sox standpoint correct? If I'm KC, I don't do the deal.
Contrary to popular belief, I doubt the Royals are too eager to deal away the 2 faces of their franchise.
They have a really good nucleus of young talent, and a pipeline of younger talent on the way.
There was a time that a few of us older guys, I'm sure Bagwell can attest to, remember when going into KC was a pretty tough trip. They were a great franchise throughout most of the 80's, and I'm sure it's their goal to return there.
Dealing two of their key, if not best players, for a fistful of prospects, a nutcase, and a possible mental blocked pitcher when they have a pretty good farm system, and an owner who on the surface, is seemingly willing to spend, to maybe add some help to try and have them compete as soon as next year, just doesn't add up if I'm KC.
If I'm the Sox, why trade all those guys at the dead-line, gain some salary relief, and then deal away alot of the top tier talent on the way to the big club, as soon as next season possibly?
The Sox directional philosophy seems to want to get back to what helped make them successful....having a stream of young talent coming to the big leagues, paired with the ability to add via trades or FA's.........
Listen, if theres any way to get Wil Myers that doesnt include the killer B's im down. I just don't see KC trading him.
Who knows. KC isn't a competent organization. Maybe they would do Buchholz for Myers.
As for Xander, he should be the most untradeable player in the entire organization. Trading him for anything but a top 5ish starting pitcher is asinine
Okay we'll you guys have all considered what ever idea I had completely ridiculous but apparently you were to busy to realize that I asked what you would do. So lets hear the brilliant ideas that you all have to fix the abysmal roster that the Sox currently have. And if it starts with not signing Ortiz that's dumb. He is worth every penny on the field and off.
I don't believe your idea to be ridiculous, rather unrealistic, at this juncture for either team.
A common mistake that is made quite often, is that a fan of a certain team, will usually tend to over value the talent on their team, and under mind the talent on another. ( I'm not saying that you made that here, it's just an observation on my part)
As far as signing or not re-signing Ortiz, I believe most look at it through rose colored glasses. From a business standpoint, I guess it could be viewed in a myriad of ways.
1. What kind of blow back will there be if they don't re-sign their beloved Papi?
2. Is he worth the money we are going to pay him?
Personally, I don't really care if they bring him back or not. I've stated before, I've watched plenty of great players come and go for many years, and Ortiz will be no different.
Sullivan, you decimated our farm and rotation for a DH, LF and an injured closer. How do you expect us to react? That trade comes close to yankeekiller territory. Are you guys related?
I hear everything you guys are saying an that's cool you guys have been on here awhile and know how this stuff goes. I read this stuff a lot just decided to join to see some of my own topics involved I guess the question I should have asked is what would you guys do to make this team better without killing the farm system and giving out crazy money while also staying in the realm of possibility
letting the kids develop while making calculated decisions when it comes to trades and FAs
For instance trading Clay, Bard, Kalish, and Aviles to the D-Backs for Justin Upton, than signing anibal Sanchez to a 4 year deal or so to replace clay.
Jackie Bradley Junior.... that is all