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    That's interesting, but I'm sure the Twins front office would want more than 1 starting pitcher if they were to part with their two lead off hitters. Ruf was a late bloomer and may develop, but I'm guessing the Twins like their own 1B prospect better in Chris Parmelee and there would be little room for Ruf as the Twins want to keep their DH slot a fluid situation.

    I think the shine has completely rubbed off of Brown. I think he'll need to show something at the MLB level or he's going to end up with little value just as what happened with Travis Snyder. Worley would be a nice target, but after a big step back in WHIP, K/9 and ERA, I'm not sure what his value is at this time. Still plenty of value but probably not what it was following last season.

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    ^^^ Cameron Rupp is moving threw system fast hes just our #3 Catching Prospect now

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    I'm still under the assumption that the Twins would not deal both Span and Revere in the same deal. Out minor league crop isn't ready yet and I don't see the need to take on Dominic Brown.

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    Not sure another team would be looking to deal FOR two lead off centerfielders either. They'd have to know the Twins would want a ton back in exchange for losing both.

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    Ok Just for One then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillies4life1 View Post
    Ok Just for One then?
    I personally would rather trade Span. Im a massive Revere fan and I love his speed and defense. Also his hitting has really developed alot the last year or so also.

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    Span is a better trade candidate. He's likely to net a very good prospect or 2.

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    Well let's start at his initial proposal. Which side of the scale falls more heavily in a Worley/Span deal? After 2011 I think getting Worley would have cost the Twins more than Span. After 2012 I think getting Span costs more than Worley.

    I'm sure a deal could get done, but from what I can see, if the Twins look to get a propsect starter back, they'd have to be asking for Trevor May or Jesse Biddle. The drop off in starting pitching after those two is pretty steep but I don't know that any other projected starting arm is exciting enough. Of course with those two being the Phillies best arms, and maybe best prospects overall, they may not be available.

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    Another Trade Idea...

    How about the Twins trading Morneau & Span to the Red Sox for Clay Buchholz, Zach Stewart & Alex Wilson?

    Rumors have it that the Red Sox & Giants might match up as trade partners with the Red Sox sending the Giants Jacoby Ellsbury for Tim Lincecum.

    No to mention the Red Sox having enough payroll available to go after FA SP Zack Greinke too.

    Their 2013 roster can look like:

    Span - CF
    Pedroia - 2nd
    Morneau - 1st/DH
    Ortiz - DH
    Ross - RF
    Saltalamacchia - C/1st
    Middlebrooks - 3rd
    Kalish - LF
    Ciriaco - SS

    Lavarnway - C
    De Jesus - 2nd/SS
    Valencia - 3rd
    Sweeney - OF

    Greinke
    Lester
    Lincecum
    Doubront
    Bard

    Mortensen
    Aceves
    Beato/Melancon
    Miller
    Breslow/Hill
    Tazawa
    Bailey
    Last edited by JG1117; 10-26-2012 at 07:00 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JG1117 View Post
    How about the Twins trading Morneau & Span to the Red Sox for Clay Buchholz, Zach Stewart & Alex Wilson?
    I would be do Span and Morneau for Clay, Stewart, and Sean Coyle instead of Alex Wilson.

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    Buchholz is going to get expensive over the next couple of years and his production has declined over the last three seasons. I don't think I want the Twins holding the bag in 2015 when he's due $12 million. To me that's too much to take on for a number 3 or 4 starter with a declining K/9 and increasing WHIP.

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    My plan for 2013

    1. Move Mauer to 3B
    2. Trade Span to NYY for David Phelps and Eduardo Nunez
    3. Sign Gavin Floyd 27mil/3yrs (assuming Chicago declines option)
    4. Sign A.J. Pierzynski 10mil/2yrs (.278 avg, 27 Hr's)
    5. Re-Sign Scott Baker 2.5mil + incentives
    6. Sign Rich Harden 1.5mil/1yr (coming off injury, set-up man for Perk)

    Lineup
    C AJ
    1B Morneau
    2B Nunez
    SS Florimon
    3B Mauer
    RF Parmelee
    CF Revere
    LF Willingham
    DH Rotation with Doumit and Mauer getting most ab's

    Bench
    Carroll
    Plouffe
    Mastroianni (like his speed)
    Doumit

    Rotation
    Floyd
    Diamond
    Phelps
    Baker
    De Vries/Hendricks/Walters/Gibson

    Bullpen
    LR Burnett
    MR Fien
    MR Robertson
    MR Duensing
    SU Burton
    SU Harden
    CL Perkins

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPH2013 View Post
    My plan for 2013

    1. Move Mauer to 3B
    2. Trade Span to NYY for David Phelps and Eduardo Nunez
    3. Sign Gavin Floyd 27mil/3yrs (assuming Chicago declines option)
    4. Sign A.J. Pierzynski 10mil/2yrs (.278 avg, 27 Hr's)
    5. Re-Sign Scott Baker 2.5mil + incentives
    6. Sign Rich Harden 1.5mil/1yr (coming off injury, set-up man for Perk)

    Lineup
    C AJ
    1B Morneau
    2B Nunez
    SS Florimon
    3B Mauer
    RF Parmelee
    CF Revere
    LF Willingham
    DH Rotation with Doumit and Mauer getting most ab's

    Bench
    Carroll
    Plouffe
    Mastroianni (like his speed)
    Doumit

    Rotation
    Floyd
    Diamond
    Phelps
    Baker
    De Vries/Hendricks/Walters/Gibson

    Bullpen
    LR Burnett
    MR Fien
    MR Robertson
    MR Duensing
    SU Burton
    SU Harden
    CL Perkins
    1.) A.J Pyrzenski overstayed his welcome in MN the first time so I don't see them giving him a second chance. We also have Doumit to do our catching duty.
    2.) Mauer is going to play 1st base if anything other than catcher. There is no way his height will go over at third base. Even though he is athletic he is not the build of a third basemen.

    3.) I think Span was also undervalued.

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    In my opinion this offseason the Twins need to resign Baker, sign a significant pitcher in free agency, trade for a significant pitcher, sign a middle infielder and sign either another back of the bullpen arm or another bat. Some names that could fit these molds.

    Sign Baker.

    Sign one of:
    Dan Haren, Edwin Jackson, Anibal Sanchez, Shaun Marcum, Brandon McCarthy, Jake Peavy, Kyle Loshe.

    Sign one of:
    Marco Scutaro, Ryan Theriot, Placido Polanco, Maicer Izturis, Stephen Drew

    Sign one of:
    Torii Hunter, Miguel Olivo, Joakim Soria, Kyle Farnsworth, Octavio Dotel, LaTroy Hawkins

    Trade involving Span for one of the following:
    Josh Johnson, James Shields, Tommy Hanson, Drew Storen/Lombardozzi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mauer.400 View Post
    1.) A.J Pyrzenski overstayed his welcome in MN the first time so I don't see them giving him a second chance. We also have Doumit to do our catching duty.
    2.) Mauer is going to play 1st base if anything other than catcher. There is no way his height will go over at third base. Even though he is athletic he is not the build of a third basemen.

    3.) I think Span was also undervalued.
    Miguel Cabrera is 6'4" 240 lbs and that seemed to work alright for Detroit

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