'12 Defense or the '06 defense

[chi-townlove1]

2006-----------------2012

Defensive Line

Alex Brown---------Julius Peppers
Adawale Ogunleye--------Israel Idonije
Tank Johnson--------Henry Melton
Ian Scott-----------Corey Wooten
Tommie Harris ---------Stephen Paea
Mark Anderson----------Shea McClellin

Line Backers

Hunter Hillenmeyer------Nick Roach/Geno Hayes
Brian Urlacher----Brian Urlacher
Lance Briggs------Lance Briggs

DB'S

Chris Harris------Chris Conte
Daniel Manning-----Major Wright
Charles Tillman-----Charles Tillman
Nathan Vasher/Mike Brown-----Tim Jennings/DJ Moore

[RowBTrice]

Tough one. Maybe a slight edge to this year's. I think Peppers, Jennings, and Melton are a big part of that. Still a LONG WAY TO GO though, so I pray pray pray for health for all our guys the rest of the way in 2012/13!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Sooper]

No Mike Brown? I think Mike Brown mattered that season, even if he didn't play the big game.

[haggis]

Give me more than 4 games to get a better judgement. We haven't necessarily played offensive juggernauts other than GB so far.

[chi-townlove1]

Give me more than 4 games to get a better judgement. We haven't necessarily played offensive juggernauts other than GB so far.

i hear ya, but also just looking at the individual talent, and the 4 games we have played...

[haggis]

i hear ya, but also just looking at the individual talent, and the 4 games we have played...

Individual talent alone?

The '06 would smash this years team. Urlacher, Briggs, and Tommie. That's 2 HOF players in their prime and an All-Pro (arguably the best 3-tech ever in a limited stretch). That blows away anything we can put together now. Not to mention Mike Brown and Peanut. Hell, even Vasher was unreal that year.

If you're talking as a collective group, I think our overall talent level is deeper this year (especially DL), but the top guys aren't as great as they were then.

[chi-townlove1]

Individual talent alone?

The '06 would smash this years team. Urlacher, Briggs, and Tommie. That's 2 HOF players in their prime and an All-Pro (arguably the best 3-tech ever in a limited stretch). That blows away anything we can put together now. Not to mention Mike Brown and Peanut. Hell, even Vasher was unreal that year.

If you're talking as a collective group, I think our overall talent level is deeper this year (especially DL), but the top guys aren't as great as they were then.

Briggs is still playing at a high intensity for sure. Urlacher, obviously yeah he's lost a step or two. Hell, I don't think Tillman has actually declined at all. Not to mention Peppers, better than anyone on the 06 line, and hes still not playing 100% healthy. Yes, the D-line is deeper for sure now, I honestly think Melton, Wooten, McClellin, and Paea all have some crazy potential that could make them All-Pro D line men.

[haggis]

Briggs is still playing at a high intensity for sure. Urlacher, obviously yeah he's lost a step or two. Hell, I don't think Tillman has actually declined at all. Not to mention Peppers, better than anyone on the 06 line, and hes still not playing 100% healthy. Yes, the D-line is deeper for sure now, I honestly think Melton, Wooten, McClellin, and Paea all have some crazy potential that could make them All-Pro D line men.

Doesn't matter how Briggs/Urlacher are playing right now, they're not as good as they were in '06. No chance.

Peppers is great. Really ****ing great. He's the best athlete in Bears history, and possibly the NFL (I sound like PP lol). But, in Lovie's T2, the 3-tech is the single most important position on the field. It all starts with that position, Tommie for the short time he was playing, was absolutely dominant. I'd take a healthy/prime Tommie over Peppers every time for this scheme.


edit: and notice when we start getting good-great play from the interior of the DL, this D looks elite again. That's the point of the T2.

[Cubs420]

Briggs is still playing at a high intensity for sure. Urlacher, obviously yeah he's lost a step or two. Hell, I don't think Tillman has actually declined at all. Not to mention Peppers, better than anyone on the 06 line, and hes still not playing 100% healthy. Yes, the D-line is deeper for sure now, I honestly think Melton, Wooten, McClellin, and Paea all have some crazy potential that could make them All-Pro D line men.

I agree about Tillman, I think hes gotten better.

[toovey107]

Individual talent alone?

The '06 would smash this years team. Urlacher, Briggs, and Tommie. That's 2 HOF players in their prime and an All-Pro (arguably the best 3-tech ever in a limited stretch). That blows away anything we can put together now. Not to mention Mike Brown and Peanut. Hell, even Vasher was unreal that year.

If you're talking as a collective group, I think our overall talent level is deeper this year (especially DL), but the top guys aren't as great as they were then.

Bam!

[Sooper]

Nice edit

[Cub_StuckinSTL]

Tommie :cry:

[Jordan Rules]

Tommie :cry:

I feel you!

[Ezio]

What could of been.

[Procision]

2006, didn't have to think that hard about it either.