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\r\nbiggest problems for this team last year were as you said, durability and the bullpen giving up too many games. Lee pitched like he had a bug up his *** all year last year about the bullpen, and Halladay was pitching hurt for the majority of the year and just refused to sit out.
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that might be true. but we would be starting off in a much different place than we were last year. no victorino. no pence. no polanco. no cooch for 25 games. and serious questions about the availability/health of halladay and utley. remember last offseason the expectation was that utley would be ready by the start of the season or shortly thereafter. and it kept getting pushed and pushed.
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\r\ni understand that victorino and polanco and pence underperformed, but at least we went into the season with a realistic expectation that they would have been at or close to their usual numbers (although i guess we could have easily predicted polanco\'s decline).
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\r\ni understand that we may be thinking we were victims of some bad luck last year. but we don\'t have the same team as last year. and i think we went into last year with much more reasonable optimism about the roster than we would with this roster (assuming we add only young and a decent bullpen arm).\r\n
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i hear you. and maybe the position is, let\'s take a beat here and see where we are/what we have. if we go on a spending spree with so many current questions, it could be all for naught. if utley\'s knees flare up, halladay cannot regain his velocity/form, howard continues to decline, brown is given the opportunity and just cannot take the next step. if all of that happens it won\'t matter if we added hamilton and grienke. so maybe the play is, let\'s try to add some cost effective/controlled pieces and we will have a lot of answers by mid-season. if the team is in contention and things fall our way, we make some moves in-season or at the deadline. otherwise, there could be huge changes next offseason (e.g., no halladay, no utley, no chooch, etc. and big acquisitions)\r\n
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i dont know if i trust that site. who the **** is Bob Nightengale?
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if its true. why the **** did we trade Lindblom. im not happy.
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seriously man??? lindblom is not good! Now bonilla I don\'t think they should of gave up.....Amaro always seems to give up a little too much...but oh well\r\n
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What does Cody Ashe line project to be in the majors?
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Depends on who you talk to. Roughly half of scouts will tell you that he won\'t reach the majors for more than a cup of tea.
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\r\nBroken down by components, he\'s a poor fielder at 3B but could become passable with more work. I haven\'t heard or read anything about his arm, so I assume it is acceptable for the position. He isn\'t known for his foot speed either.
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\r\nAt the plate, his hit and power tools are both solid-average at best. The total package plays up a bit because he has good baseball intelligence.
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\r\n if we did sign Hamilton how would the lineup look? its most likely Rollins and Revere at 1 and 2 but than theres a clusty **** of lefties.
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\ni guess it would be
\nvs RHP
\nRollins S
\nRevere L
\nUtley L
\nHoward L
\nHamilton L
\nYoung R
\nBrown L
\nChooch R
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\nRollins S
\nUtley L
\nRuf R
\nHoward L
\nHamilton L
\nChooch R
\nYoung R
\nRevere L
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\nrealistically Swisher would probably make our lineup easier to transition based on his switch hitting ability.\r\n
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BigLee53\r\n

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if we did sign Hamilton how would the lineup look? its most likely Rollins and Revere at 1 and 2 but than theres a clusty **** of lefties.
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\r\ni guess it would be
\r\nvs RHP
\r\nRollins S
\r\nRevere L
\r\nUtley L
\r\nHoward L
\r\nHamilton L
\r\nYoung R
\r\nBrown L
\r\nChooch R
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\r\nvs LHP
\r\nRollins S
\r\nUtley L
\r\nRuf R
\r\nHoward L
\r\nHamilton L
\r\nChooch R
\r\nYoung R
\r\nRevere L
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\r\nrealistically Swisher would probably make our lineup easier to transition based on his switch hitting ability.
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\r\ni agree. it\'s why i actually prefer Swisher to Hamilton.
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\r\ni say bring in Swisher and Adams for the bullpen, maybe look to add a SP like Dempster or Marcum.\r\n
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pn[24265177] = "24262882,24267184";
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pn[24267579] = "24267184,24269378";
pn[24269378] = "24267579,24271433";
pn[24271433] = "24269378,24271919";
pn[24271919] = "24271433,24271943";
pn[24271943] = "24271919,24272426";
pn[24272426] = "24271943,24272711";
pn[24272711] = "24272426,24273124";
pn[24273124] = "24272711,24275657";
pn[24275657] = "24273124,24273839";
pn[24273839] = "24275657,24291666";
pn[24291666] = "24273839,24293430";
pn[24293430] = "24291666,24293552";
pn[24293552] = "24293430,24294847";
pn[24294847] = "24293552,24294890";
pn[24294890] = "24294847,24295065";
pn[24295065] = "24294890,24296376";
pn[24296376] = "24295065,24306009";
pn[24306009] = "24296376,24295692";
pn[24295692] = "24306009,24295759";
pn[24295759] = "24295692,24295812";
pn[24295812] = "24295759,24296044";
pn[24296044] = "24295812,24296329";
pn[24296329] = "24296044,24296940";
pn[24296940] = "24296329,24306013";
pn[24306013] = "24296940,24307589";
pn[24307589] = "24306013,24306021";
pn[24306021] = "24307589,24307967";
pn[24307967] = "24306021,24308030";
pn[24308030] = "24307967,24309805";
pn[24309805] = "24308030,24308036";
pn[24308036] = "24309805,24310782";
pn[24310782] = "24308036,24311198";
pn[24311198] = "24310782,24311297";
pn[24311297] = "24311198,24311429";
pn[24311429] = "24311297,24311572";
pn[24311572] = "24311429,24311657";
pn[24311657] = "24311572,24312342";
pn[24312342] = "24311657,24312451";
pn[24312451] = "24312342,24316498";
pn[24316498] = "24312451,24317304";
pn[24317304] = "24316498,24362448";
pn[24362448] = "24317304,24320302";
pn[24320302] = "24362448,24320317";
pn[24320317] = "24320302,24321773";
pn[24321773] = "24320317,24322203";
pn[24322203] = "24321773,24322719";
pn[24322719] = "24322203,24323038";
pn[24323038] = "24322719,24323751";
pn[24323751] = "24323038,24323755";
pn[24323755] = "24323751,24323993";
pn[24323993] = "24323755,24326928";
pn[24326928] = "24323993,24345984";
pn[24345984] = "24326928,24346126";
pn[24346126] = "24345984,24346142";
pn[24346142] = "24346126,24346263";
pn[24346263] = "24346142,24346268";
pn[24346268] = "24346263,24347878";
pn[24347878] = "24346268,24348323";
pn[24348323] = "24347878,24349104";
pn[24349104] = "24348323,24349765";
pn[24349765] = "24349104,24350161";
pn[24350161] = "24349765,24350052";
pn[24350052] = "24350161,24350951";
pn[24350951] = "24350052,24351137";
pn[24351137] = "24350951,24351193";
pn[24351193] = "24351137,24357047";
pn[24357047] = "24351193,24357180";
pn[24357180] = "24357047,24358067";
pn[24358067] = "24357180,24357181";
pn[24357181] = "24358067,24357234";
pn[24357234] = "24357181,24357260";
pn[24357260] = "24357234,24358485";
pn[24358485] = "24357260,24362652";
pn[24362652] = "24358485,24363801";
pn[24363801] = "24362652,24364380";
pn[24364380] = "24363801,24365715";
pn[24365715] = "24364380,24365213";
pn[24365213] = "24365715,24365557";
pn[24365557] = "24365213,24365564";
pn[24365564] = "24365557,24366290";
pn[24366290] = "24365564,24366361";
pn[24366361] = "24366290,24366765";
pn[24366765] = "24366361,24366791";
pn[24366791] = "24366765,24367820";
pn[24367820] = "24366791,24368275";
pn[24368275] = "24367820,24370473";
pn[24370473] = "24368275,24370363";
pn[24370363] = "24370473,24371040";
pn[24371040] = "24370363,24371095";
pn[24371095] = "24371040,24371797";
pn[24371797] = "24371095,24372574";
pn[24372574] = "24371797,24372518";
pn[24372518] = "24372574,24372571";
pn[24372571] = "24372518,24374695";
pn[24374695] = "24372571,24376077";
pn[24376077] = "24374695,24378020";
pn[24378020] = "24376077,24382210";
pn[24382210] = "24378020,24382816";
pn[24382816] = "24382210,24382994";
pn[24382994] = "24382816,24383003";
pn[24383003] = "24382994,24387875";
pn[24387875] = "24383003,24393475";
pn[24393475] = "24387875,24399403";
pn[24399403] = "24393475,24398790";
pn[24398790] = "24399403,24399022";
pn[24399022] = "24398790,24398830";
pn[24398830] = "24399022,24398863";
pn[24398863] = "24398830,24408134";
pn[24408134] = "24398863,24409978";
pn[24409978] = "24408134,24411327";
pn[24411327] = "24409978,24411908";
pn[24411908] = "24411327,24412096";
pn[24412096] = "24411908,24412448";
pn[24412448] = "24412096,24412749";
pn[24412749] = "24412448,24418821";
pn[24418821] = "24412749,24413263";
pn[24413263] = "24418821,24415608";
pn[24415608] = "24413263,24418789";
pn[24418789] = "24415608,24412529";
pn[24412529] = "24418789,24412680";
pn[24412680] = "24412529,24413441";
pn[24413441] = "24412680,24415950";
pn[24415950] = "24413441,24419878";
pn[24419878] = "24415950,24421031";
pn[24421031] = "24419878,24421037";
pn[24421037] = "24421031,24421083";
pn[24421083] = "24421037,24422712";
pn[24422712] = "24421083,24422889";
pn[24422889] = "24422712,24423112";
pn[24423112] = "24422889,24426447";
pn[24426447] = "24423112,24430092";
pn[24430092] = "24426447,24444256";
pn[24444256] = "24430092,24430471";
pn[24430471] = "24444256,24430488";
pn[24430488] = "24430471,24431980";
pn[24431980] = "24430488,24439399";
pn[24439399] = "24431980,24439470";
pn[24439470] = "24439399,24439512";
pn[24439512] = "24439470,24439776";
pn[24439776] = "24439512,24440183";
pn[24440183] = "24439776,24445239";
pn[24445239] = "24440183,24446430";
pn[24446430] = "24445239,24444597";
pn[24444597] = "24446430,24446945";
pn[24446945] = "24444597,24446950";
pn[24446950] = "24446945,24447359";
pn[24447359] = "24446950,24447363";
pn[24447363] = "24447359,24447602";
pn[24447602] = "24447363,24456163";
pn[24456163] = "24447602,24456530";
pn[24456530] = "24456163,24466712";
pn[24466712] = "24456530,24456861";
pn[24456861] = "24466712,24457607";
pn[24457607] = "24456861,24459130";
pn[24459130] = "24457607,24461626";
pn[24461626] = "24459130,24460112";
pn[24460112] = "24461626,24462661";
pn[24462661] = "24460112,24463550";
pn[24463550] = "24462661,24462684";
pn[24462684] = "24463550,24464653";
pn[24464653] = "24462684,24465387";
pn[24465387] = "24464653,24466045";
pn[24466045] = "24465387,24471345";
pn[24471345] = "24466045,24475877";
pn[24475877] = "24471345,24466780";
pn[24466780] = "24475877,24477001";
pn[24477001] = "24466780,24477012";
pn[24477012] = "24477001,24477160";
pn[24477160] = "24477012,24477194";
pn[24477194] = "24477160,24477416";
pn[24477416] = "24477194,24481624";
pn[24481624] = "24477416,24490775";
pn[24490775] = "24481624,24477620";
pn[24477620] = "24490775,24477811";
pn[24477811] = "24477620,24481910";
pn[24481910] = "24477811,24491056";
pn[24491056] = "24481910,24492375";
pn[24492375] = "24491056,24492531";
pn[24492531] = "24492375,24492896";
pn[24492896] = "24492531,24493970";
pn[24493970] = "24492896,24494920";
pn[24494920] = "24493970,24495524";
pn[24495524] = "24494920,24495661";
pn[24495661] = "24495524,24496200";
pn[24496200] = "24495661,24496278";
pn[24496278] = "24496200,24495712";
pn[24495712] = "24496278,24495836";
pn[24495836] = "24495712,24495902";
pn[24495902] = "24495836,24495917";
pn[24495917] = "24495902,24496058";
pn[24496058] = "24495917,24496398";
pn[24496398] = "24496058,24496729";
pn[24496729] = "24496398,24497187";
pn[24497187] = "24496729,24497469";
pn[24497469] = "24497187,24497475";
pn[24497475] = "24497469,24498056";
pn[24498056] = "24497475,24498244";
pn[24498244] = "24498056,24499525";
pn[24499525] = "24498244,24502786";
pn[24502786] = "24499525,24503516";
pn[24503516] = "24502786,24503554";
pn[24503554] = "24503516,24506108";
pn[24506108] = "24503554,24504118";
pn[24504118] = "24506108,24504510";
pn[24504510] = "24504118,24506149";
pn[24506149] = "24504510,24506469";
pn[24506469] = "24506149,24506526";
pn[24506526] = "24506469,24507709";
pn[24507709] = "24506526,24507196";
pn[24507196] = "24507709,24508514";
pn[24508514] = "24507196,24508625";
pn[24508625] = "24508514,24508749";
pn[24508749] = "24508625,24508756";
pn[24508756] = "24508749,24508942";
pn[24508942] = "24508756,24508970";
pn[24508970] = "24508942,24511422";
pn[24511422] = "24508970,24514445";
pn[24514445] = "24511422,24518050";
pn[24518050] = "24514445,24518783";
pn[24518783] = "24518050,24518951";
pn[24518951] = "24518783,24519177";
pn[24519177] = "24518951,24519202";
pn[24519202] = "24519177,24519907";
pn[24519907] = "24519202,24520254";
pn[24520254] = "24519907,24520354";
pn[24520354] = "24520254,24520756";
pn[24520756] = "24520354,24520865";
pn[24520865] = "24520756,24529394";
pn[24529394] = "24520865,24520930";
pn[24520930] = "24529394,24521044";
pn[24521044] = "24520930,24521880";
pn[24521880] = "24521044,24523748";
pn[24523748] = "24521880,24525263";
pn[24525263] = "24523748,24525631";
pn[24525631] = "24525263,24526133";
pn[24526133] = "24525631,24526420";
pn[24526420] = "24526133,24527064";
pn[24527064] = "24526420,24528418";
pn[24528418] = "24527064,24528905";
pn[24528905] = "24528418,24528915";
pn[24528915] = "24528905,24528965";
pn[24528965] = "24528915,24528969";
pn[24528969] = "24528965,24529448";
pn[24529448] = "24528969,24537725";
pn[24537725] = "24529448,24537908";
pn[24537908] = "24537725,24539041";
pn[24539041] = "24537908,24539750";
pn[24539750] = "24539041,24544460";
pn[24544460] = "24539750,24547457";
pn[24547457] = "24544460,24549972";
pn[24549972] = "24547457,24550609";
pn[24550609] = "24549972,24550651";
pn[24550651] = "24550609,24550934";
pn[24550934] = "24550651,24551258";
pn[24551258] = "24550934,24551363";
pn[24551363] = "24551258,24551401";
pn[24551401] = "24551363,24559892";
pn[24559892] = "24551401,24552005";
pn[24552005] = "24559892,24557477";
pn[24557477] = "24552005,24558651";
pn[24558651] = "24557477,24558760";
pn[24558760] = "24558651,24561110";
pn[24561110] = "24558760,24561735";
pn[24561735] = "24561110,24561803";
pn[24561803] = "24561735,24563035";
pn[24563035] = "24561803,24563125";
pn[24563125] = "24563035,24563323";
pn[24563323] = "24563125,24563317";
pn[24563317] = "24563323,24563387";
pn[24563387] = "24563317,24564834";
pn[24564834] = "24563387,24563506";
pn[24563506] = "24564834,24563541";
pn[24563541] = "24563506,24564965";
pn[24564965] = "24563541,24565572";
pn[24565572] = "24564965,24574744";
pn[24574744] = "24565572,24574747";
pn[24574747] = "24574744,24574750";
pn[24574750] = "24574747,24575443";
pn[24575443] = "24574750,24575535";
pn[24575535] = "24575443,24575663";
pn[24575663] = "24575535,24575805";
pn[24575805] = "24575663,24575813";
pn[24575813] = "24575805,24575877";
pn[24575877] = "24575813,24576004";
pn[24576004] = "24575877,24576067";
pn[24576067] = "24576004,24576539";
pn[24576539] = "24576067,24576009";
pn[24576009] = "24576539,24576285";
pn[24576285] = "24576009,24577865";
pn[24577865] = "24576285,24578054";
pn[24578054] = "24577865,24578519";
pn[24578519] = "24578054,24578032";
pn[24578032] = "24578519,24578065";
pn[24578065] = "24578032,24578093";
pn[24578093] = "24578065,24578438";
pn[24578438] = "24578093,24578544";
pn[24578544] = "24578438,24578841";
pn[24578841] = "24578544,24579218";
pn[24579218] = "24578841,24584603";
pn[24584603] = "24579218,24578607";
pn[24578607] = "24584603,24579417";
pn[24579417] = "24578607,24579422";
pn[24579422] = "24579417,24579488";
pn[24579488] = "24579422,24579714";
pn[24579714] = "24579488,24579745";
pn[24579745] = "24579714,24579800";
pn[24579800] = "24579745,24579815";
pn[24579815] = "24579800,24579891";
pn[24579891] = "24579815,24579895";
pn[24579895] = "24579891,24579862";
pn[24579862] = "24579895,24579914";
pn[24579914] = "24579862,24580137";
pn[24580137] = "24579914,24580202";
pn[24580202] = "24580137,24580261";
pn[24580261] = "24580202,24580315";
pn[24580315] = "24580261,24580336";
pn[24580336] = "24580315,24580281";
pn[24580281] = "24580336,24580309";
pn[24580309] = "24580281,24580335";
pn[24580335] = "24580309,24580357";
pn[24580357] = "24580335,24580411";
pn[24580411] = "24580357,24580448";
pn[24580448] = "24580411,24580426";
pn[24580426] = "24580448,24580455";
pn[24580455] = "24580426,24580498";
pn[24580498] = "24580455,24580500";
pn[24580500] = "24580498,24580503";
pn[24580503] = "24580500,24580513";
pn[24580513] = "24580503,24580587";
pn[24580587] = "24580513,24580575";
pn[24580575] = "24580587,24580605";
pn[24580605] = "24580575,24580651";
pn[24580651] = "24580605,24580684";
pn[24580684] = "24580651,24580692";
pn[24580692] = "24580684,24580708";
pn[24580708] = "24580692,24580794";
pn[24580794] = "24580708,24580730";
pn[24580730] = "24580794,24580737";
pn[24580737] = "24580730,24580772";
pn[24580772] = "24580737,24581606";
pn[24581606] = "24580772,24580789";
pn[24580789] = "24581606,24580834";
pn[24580834] = "24580789,24580863";
pn[24580863] = "24580834,24580879";
pn[24580879] = "24580863,24580962";
pn[24580962] = "24580879,24581030";
pn[24581030] = "24580962,24581264";
pn[24581264] = "24581030,24581366";
pn[24581366] = "24581264,24581411";
pn[24581411] = "24581366,24581428";
pn[24581428] = "24581411,24581438";
pn[24581438] = "24581428,24581634";
pn[24581634] = "24581438,24581564";
pn[24581564] = "24581634,24581693";
pn[24581693] = "24581564,24581740";
pn[24581740] = "24581693,24581752";
pn[24581752] = "24581740,24581798";
pn[24581798] = "24581752,24581836";
pn[24581836] = "24581798,24581980";
pn[24581980] = "24581836,24582211";
pn[24582211] = "24581980,24582365";
pn[24582365] = "24582211,24582434";
pn[24582434] = "24582365,24582588";
pn[24582588] = "24582434,24582598";
pn[24582598] = "24582588,24582886";
pn[24582886] = "24582598,24583013";
pn[24583013] = "24582886,24583044";
pn[24583044] = "24583013,24583204";
pn[24583204] = "24583044,24583220";
pn[24583220] = "24583204,24583263";
pn[24583263] = "24583220,24584011";
pn[24584011] = "24583263,24584029";
pn[24584029] = "24584011,24584071";
pn[24584071] = "24584029,24584154";
pn[24584154] = "24584071,24584177";
pn[24584177] = "24584154,24584494";
pn[24584494] = "24584177,24585238";
pn[24585238] = "24584494,24586183";
pn[24586183] = "24585238,24588478";
pn[24588478] = "24586183,24584582";
pn[24584582] = "24588478,24584630";
pn[24584630] = "24584582,24584711";
pn[24584711] = "24584630,24585405";
pn[24585405] = "24584711,24586248";
pn[24586248] = "24585405,24590951";
pn[24590951] = "24586248,24591118";
pn[24591118] = "24590951,24586505";
pn[24586505] = "24591118,24587064";
pn[24587064] = "24586505,24587944";
pn[24587944] = "24587064,24591733";
pn[24591733] = "24587944,24592770";
pn[24592770] = "24591733,24593010";
pn[24593010] = "24592770,24593089";
pn[24593089] = "24593010,24593364";
pn[24593364] = "24593089,24593321";
pn[24593321] = "24593364,24607088";
pn[24607088] = "24593321,24592661";
pn[24592661] = "24607088,24592734";
pn[24592734] = "24592661,24595712";
pn[24595712] = "24592734,24596709";
pn[24596709] = "24595712,24597102";
pn[24597102] = "24596709,24597132";
pn[24597132] = "24597102,24597181";
pn[24597181] = "24597132,24597281";
pn[24597281] = "24597181,24597191";
pn[24597191] = "24597281,24597494";
pn[24597494] = "24597191,24598575";
pn[24598575] = "24597494,24598677";
pn[24598677] = "24598575,24598929";
pn[24598929] = "24598677,24598748";
pn[24598748] = "24598929,24599737";
pn[24599737] = "24598748,24599998";
pn[24599998] = "24599737,24600235";
pn[24600235] = "24599998,24601203";
pn[24601203] = "24600235,24603035";
pn[24603035] = "24601203,24603352";
pn[24603352] = "24603035,24606316";
pn[24606316] = "24603352,24606492";
pn[24606492] = "24606316,24606528";
pn[24606528] = "24606492,24606602";
pn[24606602] = "24606528,24606676";
pn[24606676] = "24606602,24606681";
pn[24606681] = "24606676,24606805";
pn[24606805] = "24606681,24606742";
pn[24606742] = "24606805,24607012";
pn[24607012] = "24606742,24607080";
pn[24607080] = "24607012,24607884";
pn[24607884] = "24607080,24608186";
pn[24608186] = "24607884,24607161";
pn[24607161] = "24608186,24607316";
pn[24607316] = "24607161,24607439";
pn[24607439] = "24607316,24607331";
pn[24607331] = "24607439,24607347";
pn[24607347] = "24607331,24607440";
pn[24607440] = "24607347,24608357";
pn[24608357] = "24607440,24608308";
pn[24608308] = "24608357,24608571";
pn[24608571] = "24608308,24608851";
pn[24608851] = "24608571,24608892";
pn[24608892] = "24608851,24608932";
pn[24608932] = "24608892,24609017";
pn[24609017] = "24608932,24609123";
pn[24609123] = "24609017,24609196";
pn[24609196] = "24609123,24609178";
pn[24609178] = "24609196,24609190";
pn[24609190] = "24609178,24609210";
pn[24609210] = "24609190,24609240";
pn[24609240] = "24609210,24609388";
pn[24609388] = "24609240,24609417";
pn[24609417] = "24609388,24609445";
pn[24609445] = "24609417,24609523";
pn[24609523] = "24609445,24609596";
pn[24609596] = "24609523,24609202";
pn[24609202] = "24609596,24609244";
pn[24609244] = "24609202,24609232";
pn[24609232] = "24609244,24609254";
pn[24609254] = "24609232,24609271";
pn[24609271] = "24609254,24609278";
pn[24609278] = "24609271,24609280";
pn[24609280] = "24609278,24609285";
pn[24609285] = "24609280,24609303";
pn[24609303] = "24609285,24609286";
pn[24609286] = "24609303,24609339";
pn[24609339] = "24609286,24609446";
pn[24609446] = "24609339,24609304";
pn[24609304] = "24609446,24609353";
pn[24609353] = "24609304,24609418";
pn[24609418] = "24609353,24609510";
pn[24609510] = "24609418,24609543";
pn[24609543] = "24609510,24609567";
pn[24609567] = "24609543,24609610";
pn[24609610] = "24609567,24609639";
pn[24609639] = "24609610,24609611";
pn[24609611] = "24609639,24609658";
pn[24609658] = "24609611,24609670";
pn[24609670] = "24609658,24609683";
pn[24609683] = "24609670,24609693";
pn[24609693] = "24609683,24609728";
pn[24609728] = "24609693,24609753";
pn[24609753] = "24609728,24609768";
pn[24609768] = "24609753,24609824";
pn[24609824] = "24609768,24609843";
pn[24609843] = "24609824,24609907";
pn[24609907] = "24609843,24609697";
pn[24609697] = "24609907,24609809";
pn[24609809] = "24609697,24609839";
pn[24609839] = "24609809,24610051";
pn[24610051] = "24609839,24610099";
pn[24610099] = "24610051,24610110";
pn[24610110] = "24610099,24610188";
pn[24610188] = "24610110,24610279";
pn[24610279] = "24610188,24610319";
pn[24610319] = "24610279,24610373";
pn[24610373] = "24610319,24611058";
pn[24611058] = "24610373,24610121";
pn[24610121] = "24611058,24610510";
pn[24610510] = "24610121,24610524";
pn[24610524] = "24610510,24610529";
pn[24610529] = "24610524,24610562";
pn[24610562] = "24610529,24610559";
pn[24610559] = "24610562,24610766";
pn[24610766] = "24610559,24610796";
pn[24610796] = "24610766,24610899";
pn[24610899] = "24610796,24610951";
pn[24610951] = "24610899,24611023";
pn[24611023] = "24610951,24610985";
pn[24610985] = "24611023,24611013";
pn[24611013] = "24610985,24611119";
pn[24611119] = "24611013,24611172";
pn[24611172] = "24611119,24611255";
pn[24611255] = "24611172,24611308";
pn[24611308] = "24611255,24612380";
pn[24612380] = "24611308,24612632";
pn[24612632] = "24612380,24611340";
pn[24611340] = "24612632,24613150";
pn[24613150] = "24611340,24613169";
pn[24613169] = "24613150,24613297";
pn[24613297] = "24613169,24613510";
pn[24613510] = "24613297,24623705";
pn[24623705] = "24613510,24615509";
pn[24615509] = "24623705,24613197";
pn[24613197] = "24615509,24622951";
pn[24622951] = "24613197,24623219";
pn[24623219] = "24622951,24624051";
pn[24624051] = "24623219,24624081";
pn[24624081] = "24624051,24624281";
pn[24624281] = "24624081,24624631";
pn[24624631] = "24624281,24624783";
pn[24624783] = "24624631,24624797";
pn[24624797] = "24624783,24624862";
pn[24624862] = "24624797,24625123";
pn[24625123] = "24624862,24624899";
pn[24624899] = "24625123,24625050";
pn[24625050] = "24624899,24625469";
pn[24625469] = "24625050,24625685";
pn[24625685] = "24625469,24636315";
pn[24636315] = "24625685,24625556";
pn[24625556] = "24636315,24625648";
pn[24625648] = "24625556,24636641";
pn[24636641] = "24625648,24636676";
pn[24636676] = "24636641,24637298";
pn[24637298] = "24636676,24636730";
pn[24636730] = "24637298,24636960";
pn[24636960] = "24636730,24636969";
pn[24636969] = "24636960,24637001";
pn[24637001] = "24636969,24637010";
pn[24637010] = "24637001,24637024";
pn[24637024] = "24637010,24637358";
pn[24637358] = "24637024,24637133";
pn[24637133] = "24637358,24637163";
pn[24637163] = "24637133,24637177";
pn[24637177] = "24637163,24637422";
pn[24637422] = "24637177,24637552";
pn[24637552] = "24637422,24637925";
pn[24637925] = "24637552,24638091";
pn[24638091] = "24637925,24638287";
pn[24638287] = "24638091,24638472";
pn[24638472] = "24638287,24638500";
pn[24638500] = "24638472,24638532";
pn[24638532] = "24638500,24638519";
pn[24638519] = "24638532,24638539";
pn[24638539] = "24638519,24638571";
pn[24638571] = "24638539,24639399";
pn[24639399] = "24638571,24639746";
pn[24639746] = "24639399,24639809";
pn[24639809] = "24639746,24639841";
pn[24639841] = "24639809,24646308";
pn[24646308] = "24639841,24639914";
pn[24639914] = "24646308,24640277";
pn[24640277] = "24639914,24641592";
pn[24641592] = "24640277,24641770";
pn[24641770] = "24641592,24642024";
pn[24642024] = "24641770,24642249";
pn[24642249] = "24642024,24642572";
pn[24642572] = "24642249,24642672";
pn[24642672] = "24642572,24643184";
pn[24643184] = "24642672,24644053";
pn[24644053] = "24643184,24644096";
pn[24644096] = "24644053,24644861";
pn[24644861] = "24644096,24646263";
pn[24646263] = "24644861,24646313";
pn[24646313] = "24646263,24646334";
pn[24646334] = "24646313,24646386";
pn[24646386] = "24646334,24646450";
pn[24646450] = "24646386,24646515";
pn[24646515] = "24646450,24646538";
pn[24646538] = "24646515,24646546";
pn[24646546] = "24646538,24646766";
pn[24646766] = "24646546,24646934";
pn[24646934] = "24646766,24646972";
pn[24646972] = "24646934,24648272";
pn[24648272] = "24646972,24649878";
pn[24649878] = "24648272,24651069";
pn[24651069] = "24649878,24651843";
pn[24651843] = "24651069,24652753";
pn[24652753] = "24651843,24652960";
pn[24652960] = "24652753,24652962";
pn[24652962] = "24652960,24652502";
pn[24652502] = "24652962,24652976";
pn[24652976] = "24652502,24654705";
pn[24654705] = "24652976,24654047";
pn[24654047] = "24654705,24654805";
pn[24654805] = "24654047,24654918";
pn[24654918] = "24654805,24655468";
pn[24655468] = "24654918,24655409";
pn[24655409] = "24655468,24658328";
pn[24658328] = "24655409,24670390";
pn[24670390] = "24658328,24671093";
pn[24671093] = "24670390,24671366";
pn[24671366] = "24671093,24671551";
pn[24671551] = "24671366,24671877";
pn[24671877] = "24671551,24671896";
pn[24671896] = "24671877,24672084";
pn[24672084] = "24671896,24673605";
pn[24673605] = "24672084,24674111";
pn[24674111] = "24673605,24681842";
pn[24681842] = "24674111,24682871";
pn[24682871] = "24681842,24686954";
pn[24686954] = "24682871,24687058";
pn[24687058] = "24686954,24687340";
pn[24687340] = "24687058,24687517";
pn[24687517] = "24687340,24687639";
pn[24687639] = "24687517,24687660";
pn[24687660] = "24687639,24688704";
pn[24688704] = "24687660,24691358";
pn[24691358] = "24688704,24692895";
pn[24692895] = "24691358,24694435";
pn[24694435] = "24692895,24694866";
pn[24694866] = "24694435,24694939";
pn[24694939] = "24694866,24694976";
pn[24694976] = "24694939,24694999";
pn[24694999] = "24694976,24695121";
pn[24695121] = "24694999,24695299";
pn[24695299] = "24695121,24696317";
pn[24696317] = "24695299,24697890";
pn[24697890] = "24696317,24701937";
pn[24701937] = "24697890,24702078";
pn[24702078] = "24701937,24702481";
pn[24702481] = "24702078,24702687";
pn[24702687] = "24702481,24703206";
pn[24703206] = "24702687,24707927";
pn[24707927] = "24703206,24710272";
pn[24710272] = "24707927,24710318";
pn[24710318] = "24710272,24710620";
pn[24710620] = "24710318,24710700";
pn[24710700] = "24710620,24711062";
pn[24711062] = "24710700,24711209";
pn[24711209] = "24711062,24711318";
pn[24711318] = "24711209,24711379";
pn[24711379] = "24711318,24711960";
pn[24711960] = "24711379,24712284";
pn[24712284] = "24711960,24712319";
pn[24712319] = "24712284,24712349";
pn[24712349] = "24712319,24712903";
pn[24712903] = "24712349,24712912";
pn[24712912] = "24712903,24712950";
pn[24712950] = "24712912,24713088";
pn[24713088] = "24712950,24713440";
pn[24713440] = "24713088,24713610";
pn[24713610] = "24713440,24713663";
pn[24713663] = "24713610,24713665";
pn[24713665] = "24713663,24713715";
pn[24713715] = "24713665,24713768";
pn[24713768] = "24713715,24713865";
pn[24713865] = "24713768,24714089";
pn[24714089] = "24713865,23821158";
// cached usernames
pu[0] = guestphrase;
pu[18414] = "TheRuckus";
pu[28959] = "Dark Donnie";
pu[36278] = "bdinella";
pu[58443] = "BigLee53";
pu[23877] = "Havoc Wreaker";
pu[43001] = "More-Than-Most";
pu[33400] = "sexicano31";
pu[10043] = "Ender";
pu[38260] = "phillyphan4";
pu[56366] = "SpectrumDweller";
pu[44858] = "papirico52";
pu[9092] = "The A Team";
pu[14512] = "jhquil1";
pu[10545] = "geo21874";
pu[69096] = "Illa215";
pu[15442] = "genetic freak";
pu[20143] = "Buckwheat";
pu[24231] = "Burkey3472";
pu[47516] = "CityofTreez";
pu[24244] = "Fred";
pu[41455] = "Billyen";
pu[13880] = "Michael6BT";
pu[12050] = "maxpower";
pu[63859] = "wittel55";
pu[12145] = "koldjerky";
pu[141250] = "TheIlladelph16";
pu[37942] = "ruckus16969";
pu[9024] = "thefeckcampaign";
pu[25865] = "Phillzfan1126";
pu[35305] = "theproof";
pu[62534] = "GNick";
pu[74178] = "Phillies4life1";
pu[17672] = "philsphan123";
pu[28572] = "Synyster89";
pu[42315] = "JerzeyFresh";
pu[24053] = "IBleedRed(duh)";
pu[179472] = "Gatto12";
pu[57037] = "WoodandNails";
pu[26691] = "Jbendz";
pu[10495] = "MooseWithFleas";
pu[10588] = "Philsforever";
pu[21670] = "Ruthian";
pu[181819] = "11MVPPatBurrell";
pu[26824] = "Gorgon2k";
pu[69203] = "Toozy";
pu[42870] = "bringbackfredex";
pu[191732] = "Reptar";
pu[43178] = "phillyfan1";
pu[221740] = "lajoie";
pu[7856] = "Liney3506";
pu[208400] = "agulby26";
pu[228218] = "SJSF";
pu[75396] = "Falky13";
pu[47616] = "EaglesJackson10";
pu[187695] = "twentysix";
pu[43410] = "philliesdoc";
pu[121942] = "djmar";
pu[43544] = "bowan1228";
pu[26681] = "Hartman11";
pu[23178] = "McPeak92";
pu[26855] = "Mandrew";
pu[199774] = "vdaino";
pu[13016] = "Bubba17";
pu[26404] = "CinnPirate";
pu[10474] = "hollywood";
pu[51792] = "bringinwood";
pu[39283] = "No Fun League";
pu[21481] = "phillies1980";
pu[216071] = "philbert";
pu[18248] = "ryguy553";
pu[81850] = "quinnjack";
pu[27661] = "borgcr01";
pu[18095] = "phillyeaglesman";
pu[57394] = "PhillyBronco08";
pu[38482] = "PhillyForLife90";
pu[51335] = "Phillysports101";
pu[209438] = "illadelphia1";
pu[8667] = "mikeman0000";
pu[55737] = "Philadeph-Ian";
pu[49525] = "LLMunchie619";
// -->
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